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D&D 5E Are "evil gods" necessary? [THREAD NECRO]

Malar, Sivanus and Melikki. Not to mention half the elven pantheon.

Kelemvor isn't happy about Mykul making a comeback. And I have heard rumours of the Raven Queen muscling in on that turf from the Shadowfell.

In some editions FR gods have been described as drawing power from their worshipers, so the only way for a god to truly die is for no one to believe in them anymore (Amunator suffered this fate - but still, he isn't quite gone, despite Lathander).
 

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Pretty sure Faerun is set up so when two gods with similar portfolios exist side by side, there is conflict and one deity 'dies'.

You could have an isolated pantheon I guess.
Tempus became the god of war taking the portfolio from Garagos who became a demigod, so it is possible for the losers of divine battles to survive.
 

No, I'm arguing that Umberlee reflects the perception of the sea of the real world dwelling person who invented her (Ed Greenwood?).
That is a more difficult of a position to prove. Sure, one can argue that the creation is influenced by the author, but it's a bit more difficult to argue that Umberlee reflects Greenwood's personal perception of the sea.
 




That is a more difficult of a position to prove. Sure, one can argue that the creation is influenced by the author, but it's a bit more difficult to argue that Umberlee reflects Greenwood's personal perception of the sea.
Why does anything need to be proved? We are talking about metaphor and emotional response, which falls under Art, not Science.
 

I would say that how evil gods are frequently presented in D&D typically don't reflect how wicked deities of real world historical cultures are presented. Evil deities of D&D probably are more indebted to the likes of Arioch in the Melnibonean series.
"Wicked" deities are usually how they are portrayed by the opposition (e.g. Ba'al in the bible, Hecate in Shakespeare). Kali was a god of destruction, but that recognised that destruction was a necessary part of the cycle of life, enabling rebirth.
 

Why does anything need to be proved? We are talking about metaphor and emotional response, which falls under Art, not Science.
Cogent arguments with evidential support are still commonplace for discussing art, Paul.

"Wicked" deities are usually how they are portrayed by the opposition (e.g. Ba'al in the bible, Hecate in Shakespeare). Kali was a god of destruction, but that recognised that destruction was a necessary part of the cycle of life, enabling rebirth.
I’m not talking about any opposing views here. I was referring to the views of deities within the worldview of the religious cultus itself. The Babylonian goddess Tiamat, for example, was vilified within the Babylonian epic “Enuma Elish.” The Canaanite deity Yam was vilified in the Ugaritic Baal cycle, but it’s not as if the Canaanite peoples of Ugarit were vilifying the deity of another religion. Wicked deities do exist within the contexts of their own cultures and nations.
 

i tend to see gods as the keepers of the life improvement. Death per se is not evil. Fury and combat can be view as usual life, and not necessarily so deep evil.

evil gods or fiends are working against life improvement, either being allowing cheating or to become absolute leader of the world. Those Evil gods often come from the initial Pantheon. The classic trope is a god or being that think that he can do better than the all father, the creator. Morgoth is the perfect example of such being. But is he a god, a fiend? Fantasy theologian may discuss all night long on such matter!
 

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