D&D 5E What To Do With Racial ASIs?

[Maxperson]

Oh, my experience is definitely of feats being used.

Every group I've played with in the last 20 years has used feats. I can't say every group I've watched play(at game stores and conventions) used them, because I didn't check them all, but the vast majority have used them.

But I will trust JC and D&DB data over my own (and definitely over others’) experience, if we are debating what “most” people do.

I don't. He's part of a corporation and corporations have agendas. I don't just accept what the spokespeople for corporations say.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Because a large minority love feats. It’s not like they just don’t care if 30% of players are enjoying the game.

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad they do. I just wonder how working with feats combines with their policy of not releasing new material unless 75% of people polled approve it.

 

[Guest 6801328]

Every group I've played with in the last 20 years has used feats. I can't say every group I've watched play(at game stores and conventions) used them, because I didn't check them all, but the vast majority have used them.


I don't. He's part of a corporation and corporations have agendas. I don't just accept what the spokespeople for corporations say.

Fight the power, Max, fight the power.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad they do. I just wonder how working with feats combines with their policy of not releasing new material unless 75% of people polled approve it.

It’s not really a policy, though, it’s a guideline they use.
But it’s pretty easy to imagine, for me at least, that large numbers of people are fine with feats but just disinterested in using them.

 

[Maxperson]

Fight the power, Max, fight the power.

If you want to believe everything corporations tell you...

 

[Micah Sweet]

It’s not really a policy, though, it’s a guideline they use.
But it’s pretty easy to imagine, for me at least, that large numbers of people are fine with feats but just disinterested in using them.

Fair enough. I have a personal issue with this guideline, as it has prevented many interesting things from being released, most notably psionics.

 

[Crimson Longinus]

I think that the feats being optional and even if in theory in use competing with the ASI means that a lot of people just don't bother with them.

 

[Parmandur]

Any chance of a citation for this?

I believe he could think that, but IME and most others I talk to, that is most definitely not the case, so I am curious as to the source.

Thanks!

Probably just my point of view, but I have a hard time believing that. I've played with many, many players over the years, at home tables and con games, and the only ones who didn't use feats were playing editions that didn't have them.

Keep in mind that a significant minority of ~40 million people is still more than any of us will ever interact with directly. That's why the plural of anecdote is not "data."

Personally, I've never seen Feats used in 5E (outside of streaming shows), and that's over six years now. However, I have no trouble believing there are people out there using them.

 

[Parmandur]

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad they do. I just wonder how working with feats combines with their policy of not releasing new material unless 75% of people polled approve it.

As a demonstrative excercise, count how many new Feats have been published since the PHB (18: 15 racial Feats in XGtE, 2 in Eberron and one Deep Gnome Feat in the Elemental Evil Guide from 2015), and divide it by the number of books with player crunch (10). Big contrast.

Or, look at the percentage of Feats from past UA articles made it into a book (out of 27 Racial Feats tested, only 15 made it into Xanathar's Guide, and all 17 Skill Feats were rejected, along with Greater Dragonmarks: can't recall any other major batch of Feats). It's kind of a meat grinder for Feats out there, probably because most are indifferent or hostile to them.

 

[Maxperson]

@Parmandur do you have a broken sense of humor or were you abusing the laugh button? Nothing I said in that post was funny.