D&D 5E Should 5e have more classes (Poll and Discussion)?

[Crimson Longinus]

Classes are easy to remove. All it takes is some scissors and determination and you can remove any class from the PHB you want. Nothing else necessary. Especially no need to redesign them as subclasses. Flat out removing classes vs redesigning some into subclasses are 2 different things. Why are you confounding the 2?

Because that is how it would happen in practice if it was done by WotC.

 

[Minigiant]

Why not use the actual smite spells that are in the PHB?

Because they wouldn't exist if the paladin is removed. They are paladin exclusive.

Error: paladin not cleric

 

[Crimson Longinus]

Because they wouldn't exist if the paladin is removed. They are cleric exclusive.

What?

 

[imeannoharm]

Assuming you're both being facetious and not <explitives>?

Since when was that facetious?

 

[Minigiant]

What?

Error in the original post.

The original premise was that removing some classes and creating new subclasses would lower the amount of new spells and feats needed.

Well if you remove the paladin, there are no smite spells. Those spells are paladin exclusive.

 

[Crimson Longinus]

The original premise was that removing some classes and creating new subclasses would lower the amount of new spells and feats needed.

Well if you remove the paladin, there are no smite spells. Those spells are paladin exclusive.

That's silly. Of course they can still exist. Hell, give arcane tricksters some bespoke spells too while we are at it. And the point was never to conserve pages or something like that.

 

[Cadence]

Since when was that facetious?

It's fairly common for either both parents (or the only parent) to be working in much of the world. So sure, in a family with mother, father, and children, the father is often expected to work -- but so is the wife. And I'm not sure what that has to do with a dad being able to give his kids ice cream just because. It's not like dads don't get to spend quality time with their kids too (like, say playing D&D).

 

[TwoSix]

The original premise was that removing some classes and creating new subclasses would lower the amount of new spells and feats needed.

Well if you remove the paladin, there are no smite spells. Those spells are paladin exclusive.

I don't think removing a class necessitates removing other objects which have a current connection to that class. You can, but you certainly don't have to.

 

[Minigiant]

That's silly. Of course they can still exist. Hell, give arcane tricksters some bespoke spells too while we are at it. And the point was never to conserve pages or something like that.

I mean the smite spells would not have been created and put in the PHB if there is no paladin class.

 

[TwoSix]

I mean the smite spells would not have been created and put in the PHB if there is no paladin class.

I don't think that's necessarily true. Not putting in a paladin class doesn't change the existence of a paladin archetype, they might have simply moved smite-related abilities to cleric or fighter (or wherever else would be appropriate to emulate the paladin archetype).