Wonder Woman Out Dec 16th

[FitzTheRuke]

My brothers a pilot flies Jets. He learnt on a biplane..

Quite a few more steps from tiger moth to passenger jet.

Sure, but I guarantee he had many many hours of lessons in between the two.

 

[billd91]

They made the decision not to give him a new body, so we don't need to know if it could. If they'd made the decision to give him a new body, then we'd know it could. I mean, it's a self-solving non-problem. Claiming the writers couldn't make it give him new body because the object can't do that makes no sense. Of course they could; they just chose not to.

Yeah, fine, whatever. The point of this all is that it didn't create a new body for Steve because, narratively, it served the story more to not do so. Had it done so, they would have had to write something else to be the downside of her wish.

 

[Morrus]

Yeah, fine, whatever. The point of this all is that it didn't create a new body for Steve because, narratively, it served the story more to not do so. Had it done so, they would have had to write something else to be the downside of her wish.

I don’t see the problem. So write something different.

 

[Umbran]

Yeah, fine, whatever. The point of this all is that it didn't create a new body for Steve because, narratively, it served the story more to not do so.

But, it didn't really serve the story. They pointedly ignored the fact that his body was stolen. A new body and a stolen body, plot-wise, are pretty much the same.

Had it done so, they would have had to write something else to be the downside of her wish.

No. You seem to have missed this.

Spoiler: Probably not necessary, but...

The wish gave you what you wanted, but took the thing most valuable to you in return. The wish took her powers. Whether Steve was in a new body or a stolen one, she had to renounce her wish to get her powers back.

 

[Ryujin]

But, it didn't really serve the story. They pointedly ignored the fact that his body was stolen. A new body and a stolen body, plot-wise, are pretty much the same.

They aren't the same when you're talking about an incredibly honourable super hero, who should consider that someone innocent person's life has just been stolen.

 

[Zardnaar]

Sure, but I guarantee he had many many hours of lessons in between the two.

Took him something like 20 years to do it.

 

[Umbran]

They aren't the same when you're talking about an incredibly honourable super hero, who should consider that someone innocent person's life has just been stolen.

Well, that is a major criticism of the movie. She is supposed to be honorable, but they ignored the stolen life and consent issue. It is a potential character point they failed to use. If you aren't going to use it, don't put it in.

Given what is presented in the film, with them ignoring that point, they could just as easily have been a created body, and the movie would play out exactly as presented, without dishonoring her, and that would have been okay.

 

[Zardnaar]

Well, that is a major criticism of the movie. She is supposed to be honorable, but they ignored the stolen life and consent issue. It is a potential character point they failed to use. If you aren't going to use it, don't put it in.

Given what is presented in the film, with them ignoring that point, they could just as easily have been a created body, and the movie would play out exactly as presented, without dishonoring her, and that would have been okay.

Well they created nukes so yeah new body easy enough.

 

[payn]

They missed a real opportunity here to have a consistent theme in WW84. Jenkins was talking about WB brass wanting to drop the double opening (as is, it probably should have been dropped). We are treated to this valuable life lessen Diana learns about winning without truth being bad. Instead of Diana spending most of the movie fighting the urge to keep Steve (shortcut), she should eventually decide she cannot, because the truth is Steve is living in a borrowed body. This truth lessen could have been paralleled into the Barbra and Max stories for a consistent message. A pretty heroic one too. Instead, WW84 is a meandering story about stuff.

 

[Mercurius]

That was just a bad film in so many ways. IMO, of course. Of the DCEU films, my favorites were Man of Steel and Batman v Superman (despite popular opinion); the first WW was pretty good, Aquaman OK. This one, I'd say, ranks there with Justice League and Suicide Squad in the stinker category. Didn't see Shazam or Birds of Prey.