So, Wandavision?

Umbran

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Maybe not, but she does call him “Director”, which seems like a pretty specific leap from “lead government chump in a suit”.

Maybe. We shall see.
Of course, she also singled him out from quite a distance in the dark to toss the drone at his feet and ask if it belongs to him (and, yes, she is singling him out; Monica and Woo are right there and she ignores them).

I think in that scene, he's at the center of the formation, giving orders, but not in tactical gear or holding a gun himself. He kinda stands out.

It certainly seems like she expects to find Hayward there.

Again, perhaps. But, let us consider - the question is why she leaves him alive....

The answer is simple - she's not actually a villain and killer. She thought she was, back when she thought she needed to make Stark pay, but, interestingly, she didn't kill him.

She has what she wants, or as close to it as she's likely to get. Killing him (or any of the Agents) does not get her anything. It would serve no purpose. So, she doesn't. In fact, she shows remarkable restraint, all things considered - which is a sign that she's not really a villain.

5 years later? Maybe. But that’s a very cold trail, especially given that she’d be starting in Wakanda.

No, she's not starting in Wakanda. There is no reason at all for her to go back to Wakanda. Why would she go there?

She gets snapped back, and takes part in the final Endgame battle. After that battle, her next question is "WHERE IS VISION?" The place would be swarming with SWORD agents trying to debrief (as I already noted). They would be seeking her out. She can start by asking nicely, and would be given the runaround. A few days or weeks of that, she'd eventually get fed up, but by that time she's talking to someone who actually knows what's up, and she can make their mind an open book...
 

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FitzTheRuke

Legend
I'm sticking with my "Wanda is pulling bits and pieces from alternate realities" theory. She apparently (maybe) can't actually bring the dead back to life, so she pulled a Quicksilver from the multiverse - she just got the wrong one.

Heck, that might even be the case with your multiple personalities for Wanda - she pulled a version of herself who could "handle things better" than she could. A tough, nasty Wanda, who's taking care of business so she can have a "normal" life.

I think Agnes is just trying to survive - though there may be some part of it that she's responsible for. (Like maybe she was a small-town therapist that was helping Wanda and suggested she needed to find a tougher Wanda within herself, not knowing what Wanda could do.)
 

Tonguez

A suffusion of yellow
No, she's not starting in Wakanda. There is no reason at all for her to go back to Wakanda. Why would she go there?

She gets snapped back, and takes part in the final Endgame battle. After that battle, her next question is "WHERE IS VISION?"

The last place we see Vision in the movies was during the battle of Wakanda, so its reasonable to assume that Wanda would start searching for Vision in Wakanda.
There is still an unanswered question of how SWORD got the remains out of Wakanda and in to its own facility - presumably somewhere near Westview, New Jersey.
 
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ART!

Deluxe Unhuman
Taylor-Johnson has not been mentioned in any show rumors at all, while Peters has been several times.

And speaking of rumors, now that Monica mentions contacting a certain aerospace engineer, the rumor mill is tagging that as
the pre-super-powered version of Reed Richards.
Wow, I was trying to figure out who that might be, and that possibility had not occurred to me. It could also be
Susan Storm, considering some more recent versions of the FF's origin
So, another thing about Agnes and her maybe being Agatha Harkness that I did not really think about until reading some recaps today. Agatha Harkness was big in Wanda's like in the comics because their powers were both magic-based. But in the film and TV version, her powers are not connected to magic at all. So maybe Agnes is someone else entirely from Wanda's comics past. Someone who would be in on this whole thing with her. She knows way too much and is clearly aware of all the stuff that does not fit the sitcom realities. Also, since this series is supposed to tie directly into the next Doctor Strange movie, maybe it is one of his foes that is behind this, "helping" Wanda? That still leaves it as possible that Agnes is Mephisto.
Maybe she's Clea? Seems unlikely somehow, but who knows.

I....I like Kraven😞

I don’t think Wanda has gone passed some point of no return. And certainly she’s suffered so much, her current state is understandable. And I think it’s clear that there’s something else at play....something else helped push her down this path. Someone.

I was happy to see that they threw in that disassembled Vision scene, even if only through security footage.
I wouldn't be surprised if we see Wanda's attack on the SWORD facility from a different perspective on a future episode, especially considering how the show has already revisited other moments but from different perspectives.
 

Rune

Once A Fool
The last place we see Vision in the movies was during the battle of Wakanda, so its reasonable to assume that Wanda would start searching for Vision in Wakanda.
There is still an unanswered question of how SWORD got the remains out of Wakanda and in to its own facility - presumably somewhere near Westview, New Jersey.
As much as I’d like to support my position with this, I think @Umbran is right to discount Wakanda as a starting place for her search. She’s at the Avengers HQ within hours (minutes?) of returning from the blip and she’s probably got to know anyone worth asking is there with her. Including the Wakandan elite.

I do wonder who on that field actually knows about SWORD, though. It seems to have been in operation for years (decades?), but it’s difficult to guage how secretive it’s been, given we, the audience, are only newly introduced.
 

MarkB

Legend
I do wonder who on that field actually knows about SWORD, though. It seems to have been in operation for years (decades?), but it’s difficult to guage how secretive it’s been, given we, the audience, are only newly introduced.
Do we know whether, in the MCU, SWORD and SHIELD are related in any way aside from the complimentary names?
 


Rune

Once A Fool
Do we know whether, in the MCU, SWORD and SHIELD are related in any way aside from the complimentary names?
I don’t think we know anything about SWORD that isn’t in WandaVision. We DO know that the FBI (at least Woo, who may have been briefed by SWORD) and SWORD know about skrulls, but that maked sense, given who co-founded SWORD.

We know that SWORD makes trips to space (or at least used to), so it’s reasonably possible they know Fury is alive and active.

We can wonder whether or not Black Widow’s dump of SHIELD secrets onto the internet included SWORD secrets. And, while we’re at it, whether or not HYDRA knew of or had opportunity to infiltrate SWORD.
 

pukunui

Legend
I think Agnes is just trying to survive - though there may be some part of it that she's responsible for. (Like maybe she was a small-town therapist that was helping Wanda and suggested she needed to find a tougher Wanda within herself, not knowing what Wanda could do.)
I dunno. I feel like the fact that she always turns up at just the right moment with just the right thing suggests to me that she's watching them. She knows that Wanda "rewinds" and edits Vision's memory. I don't think Wanda knows who Agnes really is, and I don't think she is summoning Agnes, the way Vision seems to think, unless she's doing it subconsciously.
 

MarkB

Legend
I dunno. I feel like the fact that she always turns up at just the right moment with just the right thing suggests to me that she's watching them. She knows that Wanda "rewinds" and edits Vision's memory. I don't think Wanda knows who Agnes really is, and I don't think she is summoning Agnes, the way Vision seems to think, unless she's doing it subconsciously.
There's also the matter of the dog in the hydrangeas. Leaving aside how a dog showed up in the first place, did it really just wander off and get itself killed on day one?

I feel like Agnes was involved in Sparky's death, and maybe also in his existence in the first place. Possibly trying to push the twins toward maturity (she was also right there when they first 'levelled up') or trying to push Wanda into confronting her own grief.
 

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