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So, Wandavision?

MarkB

Legend
It looked to me like acts of will on the kids part. They tend to look at each other, as if making a mutual decision, and such. She may be invested in encouraging them to age....
A bit of both, maybe. Their initial jump from newborns seemed to be the direct result of Agatha's influence, but when they were considering doing it to escape the traumatic feelings brought on by losing Sparky, it certainly seemed to be their choice. A choice seemingly deliberately influenced by Agatha, but not actually controlled by her.
 

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MarkB

Legend
If, as they sang, it was Agatha all along, I don't doubt that she might have a location inside the barrier, but not subject to the transformations of appearance.
I got the impression that her whole house was that. When Wanda was initially in there looking all weirded-out, it seemed like what was troubling her was that this was a space that clearly wasn't under her control, either directly or stylistically.
 

ART!

Adventurer
I expect the kids to age-up one more time to help out their parents, leaving them properly Speed and Wiccan for the Young Avengers (show or movie - probably show). There almost certainly won't be a WandaVision season two, but a sequel show (not just Multiverse of Magic) should be fully expected.
Yeah, it depends on how soon they plan to use those two characters. If it's not going to be fairly soon, then they might leave them as is or slightly older. Then when they get to using them as major characters elsewhere, they can cast them however they want then. Or something.
 

Blue

Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal
Powers gained from energy, etc. don't make mutants. They make super beings like Spiderman, who isn't a mutant. Mutants are born with the mutant gene and manifest those powers usually around puberty. It might set things up for their kids to be mutants, though.
Then it's very interesting that they specifically said that her cells were mutating. Perhaps to let people know that the rules in the MCU are different than in the comics.
 
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Maxperson

Morkus from Orkus
Then it's very interesting that they specifically said that her cells are mutating. Perhaps to let people know that the rules in the MCU are different than in the comics.
I don't know. I think in the MCU mutating and mutants are two different things. I don't think Spiderman got his powers without his cells mutating, but he's not a mutant.
 

Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
Yeah, it depends on how soon they plan to use those two characters.

In the comics, the demon from whom they stem takes their souls back, and they are just gone. They are reincarnated later on, because there's no such thing as a permanent death in comics, but I don't think they've got a lot of need to use them any time soon.
 

Rabulias

Adventurer
Then it's very interesting that they specifically said that her cells were mutating. Perhaps to let people know that the rules in the MCU are different than in the comics.
Actually, they never say the M word. The say "changing" or "re-writing," but never anything about mutating/mutation/mutants.
 

Tonguez

A suffusion of yellow
My theory is coming together!! Agatha is the true Hero of Westview protecting the Nexus of All Realities from the madness of Wanda.

Maybe the Book is just a key to the Nexus?

The creepy vines in the basement dungeon are certainly a cool nod too
 

Blue

Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal
I don't know. I think in the MCU mutating and mutants are two different things. I don't think Spiderman got his powers without his cells mutating, but he's not a mutant.
Actually, they never say the M word. The say "changing" or "re-writing," but never anything about mutating/mutation/mutants.

You were right and I was wrong. I found a transcript site and looked it up.

DARCY LEWIS: Hayward has your blood work. You've gone through the boundary twice already, Monica. The energy inside has re-written your cells on a molecular level twice. It's changing you.

MONICA RAMBEAU: Seen enough lab results to last me a lifetime. Cells metastasizing, cells in remission. I know what Wanda's feeling and I won't stop until I help her.

It's in Episode 6.
 

Marc Radle

Adventurer
In the comics, the demon from whom they stem takes their souls back, and they are just gone. They are reincarnated later on, because there's no such thing as a permanent death in comics, but I don't think they've got a lot of need to use them any time soon.
Well, if the rumors of an upcoming Young Avengers movie and/or series are true, they’ll need them sooner than later.

That’s supposedly why they cast Haley Stinefeld as the young new Hawkeye and an new, older actress as Scott Lang’s daughter etc. - they are putting the pieces in place to introduce the Young Avengers
 

I understand that's more-or-less what happens in the comic-book line that inspired much of the show, but that doesn't necessarily mean they'll take the same tack here. I'm not sure Disney are going to be keen on essentially killing off a couple of kids - or jettisoning a popular female superhero character.
They won't jettison them. But they could delete them on a temporary basis. We know Wanda is in Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness, possibly as a villain. So WandaVision (which reportedly has a "very sad" ending) ends with Vision dead dead dead, the twins deleted and Wanda memory wiped or imprisoned. Wanda then escapes/regains her memories in Dr Strange 2 and alters reality to bring back the twins, triggering all sorts of bad stuff.

And you have the twins back with an elaborate backstory just in time for Young Avengers.
 

ModernApathy

Explorer
Tommy and Billy have a little bit of an 'X-men mutant' feel to them in that their powers seem to have activated as they've hit a certain age.
(apart from the aging up in the first place)
 

Horwath

Hero
So I watched 6 episodes and will watch 7th today.

And it's kind of a mixed bag for me. Mostly as I expected a lot from this series and delivery is OKish.

The sitcom style was nice touch and quirky, but it gets real old real fast.

Maybe I made a mistake of watching it late at night before going to sleep, as I fall asleep during 3 episodes.
maybe because I was tired or maybe because the pace is so dreadfully slow.

I feel that this show is suffering from same thing as ST:picard, a single plot(that is not really that great so it can carry whole season in the first place) that is stretched over too many episodes for it's own good.

episodes 1-3 could have all been in one episode, same as 4-6.

Maybe I will rewatch it all after all episodes come out.
Right now I give it a solid 6/10.
 


ModernApathy

Explorer
I've been re-watching it from the start before each new episode comes out.
It helps that it comes out on a Friday night in Australia, so I get home from work, start it from the beginning and have the latest episode drop sometime during the previous episodes.

With each previous reveal there was usually a reason to go back through the earlier episodes.
 

ART!

Adventurer
They won't jettison them. But they could delete them on a temporary basis. We know Wanda is in Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness, possibly as a villain. So WandaVision (which reportedly has a "very sad" ending) ends with Vision dead dead dead, the twins deleted and Wanda memory wiped or imprisoned. Wanda then escapes/regains her memories in Dr Strange 2 and alters reality to bring back the twins, triggering all sorts of bad stuff.

And you have the twins back with an elaborate backstory just in time for Young Avengers.
Yeah, it really depends on what they want to do with Wanda in DS&TMOM. Is she a villain? An antagonist? Is she someone who has worked through her trauma and wants to master her powers? If Vision is actually, finally dead and/or the kids aren't real/alive, then that is just too sad for words and I can see her being a very broken person, but she could also grieve through it in a healthy way after all that. I'm not crazy about the "female character can't handle her powers" trope, so I hope the focus isn't on that.
 


Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
Sudden realization:

The "It Was Agatha All Along" music is an homage to "The Munsters" theme song.

Yep. And I believe the lead woman's voice in the song is Kathryn Hahn, who plays Agnes/Agatha. In general, the theme music has been exceptional. It has all been written by the same couple, so that while it changes from decade to decade of the sitcom, there's some musical phrases that appear across all of them, giving them a kind of unity.
 

ART!

Adventurer
Yep. And I believe the lead woman's voice in the song is Kathryn Hahn, who plays Agnes/Agatha. In general, the theme music has been exceptional. It has all been written by the same couple, so that while it changes from decade to decade of the sitcom, there's some musical phrases that appear across all of them, giving them a kind of unity.
...and it's the same couple that did the songs for the Frozen movies. Pretty cool.
 

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