D&D 5E 20th level Sorcerer vs the world

[fearsomepirate]

I think what happened here is Hohige had one of those "rule of cool" DMs where the RAW is ignored, handwaved, or reinterpreted based on whatever the DM thinks sounds awesome. And that's how you get nonsense like "psychic spells are exempt from initiative" and "Mind Spike insta-kills you" and whatever else. I'll bet he's one of those types where a nat 20 on a Persuasion check is basically mind control.

I suspect most DMs here run RAW + Rule of Reasonable. There isn't even much room for rulings in this situation, it's all covered by RAW. And when you run this RAW, a 4th-level sorcerer ends up as soup.

 

[prabe]

You don't play D&D. That simple.

At a minimum, you don't play D&D in a way consistent with the way roughly anyone else plays D&D. This is going well beyond mere houserules, IMO.

 

[Shadowedeyes]

So, Hohige, you are saying that even though my character has taken damage, the character might not realize it? Because I doubt the players I DM for would be happy if I told them that as DM.

 

[Hohige]

I'm finishing my build, complete, your prepared spells list.

Thanks Galandris, we are waiting.

 

[Hohige]

So, Hohige, you are saying that even though my character has taken damage, the character might not realize it? Because I doubt the players I DM for would be happy if I

You know you took damage. But he has no idea where that effect was. That simple.

 

[Jfdlsjfd]

Yeah you're right I'm damaged i'm attacked by no-one and it can't be a spell well let's think what could it be...Ah the wind right I'm dumb!

Earlier in the thread I made a joke about a Mark of the Storm barbarian with an aura of the desert that does hot, dry air around him and damage 2 HP a round, killing everyone in Waterdeep just standing behind them? Reality beats fiction!

 

[fearsomepirate]

You know you took damage. But he has no idea where that effect was. That simple.

Not knowing the location of an attacker doesn't mean you don't roll initiative.

 

[Shadowedeyes]

You know you took damage. But he has no idea where that effect was. That simple.

Okay. But the character would know something is wrong, and could either attempt to flee the area or try to find out if there is any source of the damage by searching, correct?

 

[Zio_the_dark]

So, Hohige, you are saying that even though my character has taken damage, the character might not realize it? Because I doubt the players I DM for would be happy if I told them that as DM.

The party is walking through a dark room in a random dungeon
Hohige as a DM: Arthur you lose 17 hit points
Arthur: what the heck?
Hohige as a DM you feel nothing do as if you didn't lose hit points
Idiot players: you're right let's go on exploring this place
Hohige as a DM: wait arthur you lose another 17 hit points
Arthur:........

A game played by @Hohige's DM

 

[Hohige]

Not knowing the location of an attacker doesn't mean you don't roll initiative.

You do not know the location of the attacker, the spell is imperceptible and you only know that you took damage.
Simple. Roll initiative is useless here.