Loki! (spoiler thread)


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So, her conception was not the nexus event.
I think it was. At some point during the episode I think it's Sylvie that says that it was being born female that made her a variant. I think that it was just at whatever age they showed up at to grab her was when the variation reached the levels that they come to prune at.
 

Okay, here is some whacky speculation. Laufey and Hela are the parents of all the Lokis. In one timeline Loki is born a male frost giant, taken by Laufey then left to die. Odin rescues and adopts his grandson. In another timeline Loki is born female, called Sylvie and raised by her mother Hela.
 

I think it was.

Meh. Loki's gender is fluid. What gender Loki is at any moment (even birth) isn't really an issue.

And... this is Pride Month. I am totally comfortable with the idea that Marvel would choose to NOT make the statement that what gender the character was assigned at birth matters to the universe.

At some point during the episode I think it's Sylvie that says that it was being born female that made her a variant.

Sylvie doesn't know. Sylvie asks what her nexus event was, in the elevator before seeing the Tiime Keepers, and is not given an answer.
 

Sylvie doesn't know. Sylvie asks what her nexus event was, in the elevator before seeing the Tiime Keepers, and is not given an answer.
At the very beginning of the episode when she and Loki are on the planet, she tells him that the universe is trying to break free, so it manifests chaos, like her being born the goddess of mischief(female). And that as soon as that created a big enough detour from the sacred timeline, the TVA showed up.

Perhaps at the end she's asking what her crime was, because being born female isn't a crime.
 

The relationship between Loki and Sylvie seemed to turn a bit more romantic in this episode. At least from Loki's side of the equation. I'm not sure if I like that as it seems very... narcissistic. Masturbatory? I don't know. I might be reading into it too much. And seeing as everything got absolutoey turned on it's head I'm not sure what to expect going forward.

I have subtitles on most of the time when streaming so the conversation with the Timekeepers was easy enough to follow. The subtitles added a nice touch in the post credit scene because it showed Loki saying "Am I in Hel?" which is a joke I would've missed without them on.

My rule of thumb is to turn subtitles off when watching comedies (ruins the timing of jokes) or anything that is meant to be particularly beautiful or breathtaking (gets in the way).
 


So what @Umbran said about not making a statement about gender at birth during pride month got me thinking. So far we have female Loki as a variant, Loki(Bi/Gender Fluid) as a variant, and now with the cut scene at the end, really young Loki, really old Loki, and Black Thor as I assume variants because they were likely pruned to get there.

It look as if they are going through all the protected categories as variants, presumable to make a statement in the next or final episode.
 


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