D&D and the rising pandemic

[Zardnaar]

And there'd be the problem of having to differentiate between people who don't want to get vaccinated, and the ones that can't get vaccinated due to health issues.

My theory was Covid must be costing the insurance companies a bomb so they would be lobbying and/or trying to find out how to avoid paying out.

Eg add a clause to your policy "if you're unvaccinated without a medical reason they won't pay for treatment".

 

[Umbran]

And there'd be the problem of having to differentiate between people who don't want to get vaccinated, and the ones that can't get vaccinated due to health issues.

Eh. Health insurance companies have to keep that kind of information around all the time, so that's not the real barrier.

Not setting a precedent for them to make you pay more is the barrier we want to have there. Especially because, and I cannot emphasize this enough, you're basically saying that, while you were stupid, we may force you to not have health insurance over this. Which means that if something else happens to you, you may lose your house, or even your life. No, not doing that. Keep the moral high ground.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

The dominoes are starting to fall in rural Florida.

Florida tops the nation in new COVID cases. As they spike in its rural Big Bend, many still fear the vaccine more.

As new COVID cases in Florida surge, residents in its rural Big Bend, where vaccination rates are extremely low, are quickly falling ill.

www.yahoo.com

Peddie and other paramedics often must transport patients to larger, better equipped hospitals. The closest is an hour-drive away, in the state capital, Tallahassee. A worsening or prolonged surge could further strap the counties' one small hospital and emergency staff.

Several of the counties mentioned have vax rates under 30%, and have 1-2 ambulances serving a single hospital. If things get out of control, collapse is a real possibility. They have almost no room for error.

 

[GreyLord]

Eh. Health insurance companies have to keep that kind of information around all the time, so that's not the real barrier.

Not setting a precedent for them to make you pay more is the barrier we want to have there. Especially because, and I cannot emphasize this enough, you're basically saying that, while you were stupid, we may force you to not have health insurance over this. Which means that if something else happens to you, you may lose your house, or even your life. No, not doing that. Keep the moral high ground.

Part of it is that the rest of us who have been doing what we should are SOOOO extremely tired of those who flaunt denial in our face.

Insurance companies may hesitate to cover you if you murder someone else and get hurt in the process, or if you purposefully expose yourself to a live volcano and jump into the lava, or if you jump off tall buildings in a single bound and fall flat on the ground and manage to survive.

They raise premiums if you smoke, if you drink, if you do other things like that (or have in the past). Using those as precedence, and as this pandemic is far more widespread and there is a proven way (right now with the variant that are prevalent at least) to help avoid it...not sure what the excuse really is NOT to raise premiums or refuse to pay out for those who are purposefully endangering theirs and everyone else's health.

 

[GreyLord]

Part of it is that the rest of us who have been doing what we should are SOOOO extremely tired of those who flaunt denial in our face.

Insurance companies may hesitate to cover you if you murder someone else and get hurt in the process, or if you purposefully expose yourself to a live volcano and jump into the lava trying to also splash it on anyone else nearby for no other reason than you thought it would be fun, or if you jump off tall buildings in a single bound and fall flat on the ground and manage to survive.

They raise premiums if you smoke, if you drink, if you do other things like that (or have in the past). Using those as precedence, and as this pandemic is far more widespread and there is a proven way (right now with the variant that are prevalent at least) to help avoid it...not sure what the excuse really is NOT to raise premiums or refuse to pay out for those who are purposefully endangering theirs and everyone else's health.

 

[Zardnaar]

LA man who mocked Covid-19 vaccines dies of virus

Stephen Harmon, who opposed getting vaccinated, has died after a month-long struggle with the virus.

www.bbc.com

Man mocking Covid.

Australia anti lockdown protests. Man punched a police horse. The horse bit him and he's been charged with animal cruelty.

5000 people contacted police identifying the protesters as well.


Horse is ok and recieved gifts.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Australia anti lockdown protests. Man punched a police horse. The horse bit him and he's been charged with animal cruelty.

Why’d they charge the horse? He was just defending himself. And is it really animal cruelty if a human gets bitten?

Horse is ok and recieved gifts.

Ohhhh…that’s very different. Nevermind.

 

[Zardnaar]

Why’d they charge the horse? He was just defending himself. And us it really animal cruelty if a human gets bitten?


Ohhhh…that’s very different. Nevermind.

Video showed it. He punched the horse then later on his fingers got bitten. Around the 1:00 mark.

Main thing though. Horse is ok don't panic.

 

[Hussar]

My theory was Covid must be costing the insurance companies a bomb so they would be lobbying and/or trying to find out how to avoid paying out.

Eg add a clause to your policy "if you're unvaccinated without a medical reason they won't pay for treatment".

At a guess, the costs to fight this in court would be astronomical. Because you KNOW the second that an insurance company tried to do it, it would be up before the courts in an instant. Between the actual costs of fighting the case, and the social costs, I imagine that most insurance companies would rather just not jump into that pool right now.

Fun fact - 80% of the US olympic team was vaccinated. 20% weren't and they have already had one case resulting in the Gymnastics team leaving the olympic village and getting a hotel nearby. None of these people had to quarantine.

I wonder what the percentages are on other teams.

 

[Imaculata]

This mass stupidity is truly astounding. Almost every doctor in the world is telling us to take the virus serious and get vaccinated, and yet there are still huge crowds of people who think they know better. That guy in the video who recovered from covid, and yet still refuses to get the vaccine, is especially maddening. It makes you want to reach through the screen and smack some sense into him.