Crimson Longinus
Legend
I'm not sure that you're correct. Then again, I'm not sure that I am correct. But 'biological essentialism' is literally so obscure term that it doesn't even have Wikipedia page, so it is possible that it actually isn't particularly strictly defined.I’ve given you my definition twice now. Tack “oid” onto the end of “human” in that definition and it applies to D&D races just fine.
Biological determinism and biological essentialism are very closely related concepts, but they are not interchangeable. Biological essentialism is treating someone’s essential qualities as biologically determined. How strong someone is is absolutely biologically determined. Whether they are “a jock” is not, and treating it as such is called “biological essentialism.”
Sure. The point of those clear example was to show that it is actually a continuum.I’m not sure that I can in all cases, and it’s those cases I would like to actually discuss, instead of wasting time and energy bickering about things that are obviously not. Can we please put the stupid examples like aarakocra flight and dragonborn breath to bed so we can talk about the cases with actual ambiguity like Goliath strength and gnome intelligence? Thanks.
Sure. And I think in hands of some other writer those same things might have been described in somewhat more problematic light. But it is actually a good example how to write a description.Nothing in that quote ascribes essential qualities of changeling nature to their shape shifting. “many” changelings use this gift as a form of artistic and emotional expression,” nor “changelings are artistically and emotionally expressive thanks to this gift.” “It is an invaluable tool for grifters, spies, and others who wish to deceive,” not “changelings are grifters and spies who use this tool to deceive.” “This leads many people to treat Changelings with fear and suspicion,” not “Changelings should be treated with fear and suspicion.”
I don't think your distinction is coherent here. It is not essentialising to describe them having a quality due their biology, but it essentialising to point out that this might make them good at things that quality is useful for?No, it’s a result of their biology. Extrapolating to their essential nature, such as calling them “natural athletes” or what have you due to that biology is what we call biological essentialism.
It is essentializing for an entire race of people to be better fighters than entire other races, just as it would be for an entire race of people to be better weightlifters than entire other races.
(And under the current rules and without ASIs goliaths definitely make better weightlifters than most other races.)
I think that is way less concerned about this stuff than either of us...The general D&D playing public?
Sorry if that's how it came across. Not really what I was going for.We are working with a logically semi-coherent framework, it just isn’t completely deterministic. It requires socially constructed consensus, just as all such frameworks do. But pointing out absurd examples that are obviously outside that framework and trying to claim the framework is useless because it doesn’t deterministically rule them out does not help to build that consensus. It only distracts from the process of building that consensus, which is why it comes across as bad-faith to do.
Right. So funny looking humans with superpowers. Have fun!Ok, then you don’t have to bother. The rest of us will enjoy our cool game with imaginary people who look different and have different capabilities than humans but aren’t treated as monoliths because of their different appearances and capabilities.
You're really not telling stories about dwarves if there isn't anything that even coherently defines a dwarf. "Dwarves are just like humans except maybe a bit shorter." You can tell varied stories about humans, and if your non-humans are not different from humans, you don't need them to tell those stories.It’s not useless at all! On the contrary, it opens up room for more varied stories to be told using them, and makes them infinitely more nuanced and interesting characters.