D&D General ENWorld is better that the pundits…change my mind

[renbot]

going to get less of them here

That sounds like something an AI would say!

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

I realize I am stricter than average…I might handicap myself as player to an extent due to my anti cheese bias.

But some online advice is utterly silly. Someone tortures the English language to sort of justify some combo that would not work at a majority of tables.

Pet peeve of mine (but I am uptight about trying to play by intended rules…).

In some of those cases I guess at least they are clear in what the goal is.

Yeah, I err towards Rules As Intended. The "let's break the game for fun" thing got tiresome for me five minutes into the 3E era.

I do have an optimizer in my games, but he's not abusive about it and the fun of knowing how to do it is more important to him than actually being able to punch a hole through an iron golem at level one.

 

[Composer99]

A lot of those argumentative discussions also give birth to some wonderfully creative ideas and as someone who is not bound to RAW and always in search of inspiration and creativity, I find Enworld extremely useful on that front.

I dunno.

On the "control spells wreck boss fights, hence legendary resistance" thread, there were a few good ideas about alternatives to legendary resistance. For instance, if memory serves, one person suggested that action-denial spells (hideous laughter and so on) could prune away legendary actions. I don't recall that those ideas were cropping up past page 5, though, and that thread is now going on 40+ pages. It could be that some more new ideas are cropping up as latecomers to the thread offer their throughts, of course, but having exhausted my patience with the thread I'm not inclined to dig through it to find them.

Also, I just don't care enough about whether or not legendary resistance is a design problem that needs solving that I would even want to find a solution to it. So whether or not people are coming up with alternatives to legendary resistance is just... not pertinent to me, no matter how creative they may be. Mind, I'm not saying other folks are wrong in thinking legendary resistance is a problem - after all, Mearls himself admitted it was a kludge! - or that they're wrong to seek out solutions to it. More power to them.

Perhaps so. Personally, I just...naturally take a detail-oriented approach and attempt to respond to claims as they are made. When possible, I strive to capture the whole of each point, and when I fail to do so, I attempt to make up for it.

Well and good! All I can do is point to my own personal experience.

In a way, reading and participating in a hobby discussion forum is also a hobby, so if I don't have anything (that I think is) interesting to say, I usually don't participate, and I'll very quickly abandon a thread I'm reading if it stops being interesting or if it's getting tedious or tiresome to read through, for the same reason that I'll abandon a book or video game. Obviously, everyone else views their hobby forum participation differently, or finds different things interesting (or not) than I do, so I can't expect my take to be universally held.

For what it's worth, viz. fisking, I actually do think fisking is quite valuable in many contexts, especially when close reading is important. I just personally find it exhausting to read, especially when reading on a hobbyist discussion forum is also part of my hobby. (Back in the day, I used to participate more extensively in medicine-related discussions on medical-themed blogs, where proponents of quackery would frequently get fisked. That was the Lord's work, you might say, but still exhausting to read through, which among other things is why I eventually drifted away from participating in such discussions.)

Finally, I should not like to give the impression that I was singling you, or any of your interlocutors, out specifically, and I apologise if you felt compelled to reply out of a sense that I was doing just that. That thread just happened to be the most recent example I could think of of the kind of thing I was pointing at. I've been here long enough to have a long enough posting history that I may well have fisked a post or two myself! Most importantly, as long as there is something you found interesting or even enjoyable about those discussions, then please don't take anything I have to say as reason to stop having them in that particular format!