Spoilers Poll (Poll about spoilers not a poll containing spoilers)

[billd91]

I’ve never understood the argument that other people do worse things, therefore I’m allowed to do this unpleasant and rude thing because it’s less bad.

Less bad, is not good or admirable.

Maybe because discussing spoilers that are old isn’t actually a bad thing. That it is something you don’t like doesn’t define it as a bad thing.

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

I’ve never understood the argument that other people do worse things, therefore I’m allowed to do this unpleasant and rude thing because it’s less bad.

I dunno.

I've never understood the argument that someone discussing the plot of a movie or book or TV series means that we start tossing around terms like personal autonomy and harm.

The reason people disagree with you is not because they view it as "less bad," but because they think that the obsession with spoilers is silly and counterproductive.

 

[TheSword]

I dunno.

I've never understood the argument that someone discussing the plot of a movie or book or TV series means that we start tossing around terms like personal autonomy and harm.

The reason people disagree with you is not because they view it as "less bad," but because they think that the obsession with spoilers is silly and counterproductive.

You don’t have to cause lasting damage to someone for it to be a not pleasant thing, and worth avoiding.

I don’t think this is causing anyone harm. It’s just annoying and a bit mean spirited, selfish and disrespectful.

I’m sure there are lots of politeness that you consider reasonable. You just don’t see this as one of them.

 

[Thomas Shey]

It seems to me that the general rule here is the opposite; if a thread isn't specifically tagged as containing spoilers, then it's a no spoilers thread.

I'm not sure about that. People will make passing references to things that (if no statute of limitations on time is considered relevant) could be viewed as spoilers all the time. Because, honestly, few people are going to consider plot elements from a decade old or more TV show or movie a spoiler at this point. People who do, I have to say, I consider on the unreasonable side.

 

[Thomas Shey]

The degree to which it is harmful is irrelevant. And not your call, frankly.

Of course it is. At some point, anything you do can be harmful to someone, including things that seem utterly innocuous. Its not your responsibility to have unlimited care in this area.

 

[Morrus]

The biggest problematic issue with spoilers, as I see it, is geolocking. We all often get access to stuff at different times.

 

[Thomas Shey]

The biggest problematic issue with spoilers, as I see it, is geolocking. We all often get access to stuff at different times.

Well, I'm not talking about ignoring spoilering in things that came out two months ago. But unless I've misread some posters, they seem to be objecting to doing it for media that came out years ago.

 

[Rune]

Of course it is. At some point, anything you do can be harmful to someone, including things that seem utterly innocuous. Its not your responsibility to have unlimited care in this area.

Of course it is not your call! Deciding that the degree of harm you are about to inflict on someone who cannot do anything to prevent it is too minor to stop you necessarily comes at the expense of their autonomy. You can do it. But you can’t do it without robbing them of something.

Many people may not mind, or even notice. Most, even. But any one reading this thread to this point has been informed (over and over again) that some will.

These people are situationally powerless in our hands. Is it unreasonable for these people to hope we will temper our power over them with a like amount of responsibility?

Is laziness really so much more important than that tiny sliver of respect?

 

[Rune]

Well, I'm not talking about ignoring spoilering in things that came out two months ago. But unless I've misread some posters, they seem to be objecting to doing it for media that came out years ago.

Why should that matter? You cannot know when someone will be exposed to something. It may be old to many – even most. But it isn’t old to everybody.

 

[Thomas Shey]

Is laziness really so much more important than that tiny sliver of respect?

When, to satisfy some people in this thread, its necessary with every medium reference ever?

Yes.

Other people do not have unlimited rights to my energies and how I deploy them simply for their own convenience.