D&D 5E Is Paladine Bahamut? Is Takhisis Tiamat? Fizban's Treasury Might Reveal The Answer!

According to WotC's James Wyatt, Fizban's Treasury of Dragons introduces a new cosmology for dragon gods, where the same beings, including Fizban, echo across various D&D campaign settings with alternate versions of themselves (presumably like Paladine/Bahamut, or Takhisis/Tiamat). Also... the various version can merge into one single form.

Takhisis is the five-headed dragon god of evil from the Dragonlance setting. Paladine is the platinum dragon god of good (and also Fizban's alter-ego).

Additionally, the book will contain psychic gem dragons, with stats for all four age categories of the five varieties (traditionally there are Amethyst, Crystal, Emerald, Sapphire, and Topaz), plus Dragonborn characters based on metallic, chromatic, and gem dragons.

D&D 5E - Check out Fizban's Alternate Cover!

WotC's James Wyatt talked to Polygon about Fizban's Treasury of Dragons, which also revealed the alternate cover, which you can only get from hobby stores. https://www.enworld.org/threads/fizbans-treasury-the-dragon-book-now-has-a-description-and-a-feat.681399/

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D&D 5E - Fizban's Treasury: The Dragon Book Now Has A Description... And A Feat

Courtesy of Amazon, we now have a description for Fizban's Treasury of Dragons, the October D&D hardcover. The book introduces gem dragons, dragon-themed player options, and plenty of draconic lore! This joins September's The Wild Beyond the Witchlight, and November's Strixhaven: Curriculum of...

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[Scribe]

Yes, but no other public facing product needs to adhere by it

Then...no.

That's not canon.

 

[Maxperson]

People keep saying this, but I thought what was said was that only the 5e RPG books are canon. So not novels, not video games, but yes Tasha's Cauldron of Everything and Van Richten's Guide to Ravenloft. Did I miss something?

Initially one designer said that. Shortly after another one came and clarified that only the core books are public facing canon. That's an interesting way to put it, because it implies that there is non-public facing canon that is outside of the core books. If the core three were the only canon period, then there wouldn't any reason to specify public facing.

 

[Maxperson]

Then...no.

That's not canon.

At this point there is effectively no canon. The core books don't have enough lore to really put coherent canon together. I suppose that only the crunch is really canon now.

 

[Urriak Uruk]

That's not canon.

MtoF is technically not canon. No book beyond the core three books are in 5E.

 

[Urriak Uruk]

At this point there is effectively no canon. The core books don't have enough lore to really put coherent canon together. I suppose that only the crunch is really canon now.

And considering how the DMG contradicts itself on the topic of the Multiverse, the default is largely "All lore is theoretical!" anyway.

 

[Urriak Uruk]

People keep saying this, but I thought what was said was that only the 5e RPG books are canon. So not novels, not video games, but yes Tasha's Cauldron of Everything and Van Richten's Guide to Ravenloft. Did I miss something?

D&D Canon | D&D Studio Blog | Dungeons & Dragons

In this D&D Studio Blog, Chris Perkins describes the D&D Studio's position on canonicity.

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FIFTH EDITION’S CANON BEGINS WITH ITS CORE RULEBOOKS.
Fifth edition’s canon includes every bit of lore that appears in the most up-to-date printings of the fifth edition Player’s Handbook, Monster Manual, and Dungeon Master’s Guide. Beyond these core rulebooks, we don’t have a public-facing account of what is canonical in fifth edition because we don’t want to overload our fellow creators and business partners.

 

[Scribe]

D&D Canon | D&D Studio Blog | Dungeons & Dragons

In this D&D Studio Blog, Chris Perkins describes the D&D Studio's position on canonicity.

dnd.wizards.com

FIFTH EDITION’S CANON BEGINS WITH ITS CORE RULEBOOKS.
Fifth edition’s canon includes every bit of lore that appears in the most up-to-date printings of the fifth edition Player’s Handbook, Monster Manual, and Dungeon Master’s Guide. Beyond these core rulebooks, we don’t have a public-facing account of what is canonical in fifth edition because we don’t want to overload our fellow creators and business partners.

Exactly, I don't think it could be any more clear.

MToF isn't canon.
Fizbans won't be canon? I would assume not.

There is no canon.

 

[Bolares]

Maybe I'm not reading it right but how I understand this is:

-to the public all 5e books are as canon as any other book ever was. (take what you want and ignore what you want, this are our basic assumptions and propositions.

-to fellow creators and business partners, you need to adhere only to the core 3, as our only public facing account of what is canonical. Don't worry about strictly following the events of out of the abyss or the take on elves from mornenkainen

 

[Scribe]

Maybe I'm not reading it right but how I understand this is:

-to the public all 5e books are as canon as any other book ever was. (take what you want and ignore what you want, this are our basic assumptions and propositions.

-to fellow creators and business partners, you need to adhere only to the core 3, as our only public facing account of what is canonical. Don't worry about strictly following the events of out of the abyss or the take on elves from mornenkainen

Those are opposing paths.

If group A has 1 set of canon, and group B has a different one, then there is no canon.

 

[Bolares]

Those are opposing paths.

If group A has 1 set of canon, and group B has a different one, then there is no canon.

I remmember them saying there were different canons.... wasn't that a thing? My take is I could care less what is the canon for anything but the game. And even then I care about canon in a sense of them keeping up the spirit and principles of the settings and characters...