yeah I worked on a whole house ruled system where you started with Con score HP then every other level you got a HD (2,4,6,ect) but on the odd levels after first you got 1,2,or3hp the way post 10th level worked in 2e...
D&D 5E Should healing magic be based on HD or not?
DND_Reborn
The High Aldwin
That would certainly reduce maximum HP over all, but doesn't the lack of HD limit non-magical healing too much?
yeah it did...making for shorter adventureing days.
Blue
Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal
Just to point out another Healing Surge like implementation, take a look at 13th Age. It's not surprising it has something close - the lead designer of 4e made it, along with a lead designer of 3.0.
Spells and such triggered these. For example, if you cast Cure Wounds as a 1st level spell it would let you spend a recovery, a 3rd level spell and it would also let you save against every condition, and progressively more bonuses using a 5th, 7th, or 9th slot.
Some interesting twists - when you took a rest if you were below half HPs after a battle, you were required to spend Recoveries until above half. Even if you didn't have any left.
Anyone could take an action in combat to Rally, which would trigger a recovery. (And fighter could do it as a quick action and possibly more, and dwarves when hit once per encounter can spend a free recovery). First time each encounter it triggers perfectly. If you need to do it more than once it can fail though.
Spells and such triggered these. For example, if you cast Cure Wounds as a 1st level spell it would let you spend a recovery, a 3rd level spell and it would also let you save against every condition, and progressively more bonuses using a 5th, 7th, or 9th slot.
Some interesting twists - when you took a rest if you were below half HPs after a battle, you were required to spend Recoveries until above half. Even if you didn't have any left.
Anyone could take an action in combat to Rally, which would trigger a recovery. (And fighter could do it as a quick action and possibly more, and dwarves when hit once per encounter can spend a free recovery). First time each encounter it triggers perfectly. If you need to do it more than once it can fail though.
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Stoutstien
lunk
Finally found my notes.I'm an extremely organized person when I have to move and I still can't find anything
Homebrewed rules for alternative use of HDs:
Artificer can spend hit die to replenish charges in magic items. They must roll a 10 or higher with the die + intelligence modifier per charge.
Barbarians can roll hit dice and add the results plus their con modifier to gain temporary hit points whenever they enter rage. Max amount of dice they can spend at one time is equal to their constitution modifier.
Fighters can spend additional hit dice when they use second wind up to a number = half their fighter level.
Monks can spend a hit die to heal themselves whenever they use patient defense or step to wind.
Homebrewed rules for alternative use of HDs:
Artificer can spend hit die to replenish charges in magic items. They must roll a 10 or higher with the die + intelligence modifier per charge.
Barbarians can roll hit dice and add the results plus their con modifier to gain temporary hit points whenever they enter rage. Max amount of dice they can spend at one time is equal to their constitution modifier.
Fighters can spend additional hit dice when they use second wind up to a number = half their fighter level.
Monks can spend a hit die to heal themselves whenever they use patient defense or step to wind.
jmartkdr2
Hero
So I've played with a rule where you may spend HD when magically healed (1 HD per die of healing rolled). You also got all you HD back on a long rest.
It worked fine. It made longer adventuring days easier to manage and made ion-combat healing more usable (since a high-slot-level healing spell could restore more than one monster attack's worth of hp), but it didn't work well enough to make us keep the rule. It was mostly a lateral change, maybe a slight improvement, but not really worth the effort of remembering the houserule.
FWIW, the only houserule to make the "worth remembering" cutoff is 'bonus action to drink a potion.'
It worked fine. It made longer adventuring days easier to manage and made ion-combat healing more usable (since a high-slot-level healing spell could restore more than one monster attack's worth of hp), but it didn't work well enough to make us keep the rule. It was mostly a lateral change, maybe a slight improvement, but not really worth the effort of remembering the houserule.
FWIW, the only houserule to make the "worth remembering" cutoff is 'bonus action to drink a potion.'
Stoutstien
lunk
Honestly I haven't had much issues with players remembering my house rules because they are on the back of my screen and the majority of them are simplifying or making interactions better for them.
jmartkdr2
Hero
Well, I mostly play online so the only one who can see the back of my screen is the cat. I don't know if she understands the concept of 'rules'; she definitely doesn't think they apply to her.
This change is mostly added complexity. The only character type it would help is a dedicated healer, so if no one's playing that it's mostly a miss.
Stoutstien
lunk
Yes it is more difficult to pull off in a digital media platform. Of course I think there's a lot of nuances that failed to translate well to that medium. I don't mind running 4e online because the system supports that type of codified play.
Blue
Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal
Taking the maximum of CON mod and die roll makes CON barely worth it for the martial classes, which doesn't seem to be what we want. It also requires record keeping of each roll in case your CON goes up later.
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