WotC Can we salvage Toril?

[JThursby]

Or is it just that nobody cares anymore about FR, and similar to Critical Role, its better everyone builds their own world and there is no longer a common shared world experience.

Nobody new to the game cares about FR because wotc has done a terrible job of describing and communicating basic aspects of the setting. The Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide is too short, too slipshod and too half-assed with new developments in the setting like the Spellplague, Dragonborn, etc. The rest of the information is scattered across many books and often in compendia that address multiple D&D universes. Even with all official 5e content in mind it hardly paints a complete or even helpful picture of the setting. Your best bet is to use previous editions' lore material or a fan wiki. It's no wonder homebrewing is ever more popular, it's easier to start anew than try to parse such confusingly dispersed world information.

 

[Maxperson]

Should I care about Toril?

I had a big investment in 3E FR and liked what I had from before that

Then I understand 4E did a time jump, shook things up, killed a bunch of NPCs and then somehow brought back all the marketable ones

5E then tried to revert back to 3E situation but didn't retcon

Because you can pick and choose what happens in your Forgotten Realms. Take 1e-3e as your base and then you can cannibalize portions of 4e and 5e that you like, ditching the rest.

 

[Ancalagon]

I have both the 3e and 2e versions of the setting, they are still "valid" no? They don't have to be in 5e to be used...

 

[Greggy C]

. It's no wonder homebrewing is ever more popular, it's easier to start anew than try to parse such confusingly dispersed world information.

idk I think home brew is a massive undertaking, thousands of hours to get something vaguely coherent.

 

[Azzy]

idk I think home brew is a massive undertaking, thousands of hours to get something vaguely coherent.

It really depends on how detailed and what scale you plan for.

 

[Greggy C]

It really depends on how detailed and what scale you plan for.

for sure, I can put a two dots on a piece of paper, village, dungeon, first 3 sessions done. but even back in 1989 I needed something much much more substantial and "real" for my players to be fully immersed, that was the beauty of the realms, looks guys here is your world and this is where you are.

 

[Li Shenron]

I have both the 3e and 2e versions of the setting, they are still "valid" no? They don't have to be in 5e to be used...

I definitely still use my 3e FRCS and Faiths & Pantheons, not so the Monsters/Magic of Faerun because they were mostly crunch.

 

[Greggy C]

Because you can pick and choose what happens in your Forgotten Realms. Take 1e-3e as your base and then you can cannibalize portions of 4e and 5e that you like, ditching the rest.

I do agree thats the way to go. No need for your players to travel that far west to another continent. I just hate having a continent online that has stuff that everyone is going to ignore. Feels bad.

 

[Sorcerers Apprentice]

Toril has been an unsalvagable mess for at least 20 years already.

 

[eyeheartawk]

Don't mind me I'm just here to deposit this into any relevant threads.