D&D 5E A Compilation of all the Race Changes in Monsters of the Multiverse

Over on Reddit, user KingJackel went through the video leak which came out a few days ago and manually compiled a list of all the changes to races in the book. The changes are quite extensive, with only the fairy and harengon remaining unchanged. The book contains 33 races in total, compiled and updated from previous Dungeons & Dragons books.

D&D 5E - List of All 33 Races in Mordenkainen's Monsters of the Multiverse

Mordenkainen Presents Monsters of the Multiverse contains 33 races compiled from previous Dungeons & Dragons books. Aarackocra Assimar Bugbear Centaur Changeling Deep Gnome Duergar Eladrin Fairy Firbolg Genasi, Air Genasi, Earth Genasi, Fire Gennasi, Water Githyanki Githzerai Goblin Goliath...

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D&D 5E - Full List of Monsters in Mordenkainen Presents Monsters of the Multiverse

Mordenkainen Presents Monsters of the Multiverse contains revamped stat blocks for 260 monsters previously published in previous Dungeons & Dragons 5E books. The list was compiled by YouTuber Bob Worldbuilder based on some blurry screenshots originally shared by Nerd Immersion (see the video...

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[Cadence]

No. Because the PC gnome has the 20 Strength, and (most of) the NPC gnomes don't.

Sorry, meant it would be true of any party containing that particular gnome.

Would it also mean in that world that the strongest gnome was as strong as the strongest Half-orc?

 

[Li Shenron]

I don't want to necessarily argue about it, but I think this is an unfair characterization of Li's statement:

It seems wrong to dismiss this as lazy. There have been many times people change things just to change them, and stating that is not lazy thinking, it is trying to distill the essence of why they are changed. Just because it is short and brief, does not make it lazy. And when you call something "lazy criticism, you are implying that the criticizer is a lazy thinker - which might be the furthest thing from the truth.

Just offering another viewpoint.

Thanks for caring. My post was quite a precise summary of my thoughts. I could have explained it with a thousand words but perhaps I did get lazy this time and while writing it I decided I had wasted enough time for the day on the forums.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

But that was the case in 5e from the beginning. Everyone peaks at 20 in STR for example. It seems however, that many people want it sooner and that is ok.

The two are pretty different. Giving some races athletics doesn’t make them better fighters.

 

[Reynard]

The two are pretty different. Giving some races athletics doesn’t make them better fighters.

Which is one of the arguments against a simple bonus to strength to represent "stronger". D&D has always wrapped up physical power with fighting ability and it has always been a little suspect. I don't think anyone in this thread has argued the best halfling fighter couldn't be as good or better than the best half orc fighter, so the 20 Str isn't really the issue. It is the raw lifting power and athletic prowess that rubs wrong against "simulation".

 

[UngeheuerLich]

The two are pretty different. Giving some races athletics doesn’t make them better fighters.

Exactly. That is the point.

 

[Yaarel]

@Cadence

Humans come in all shapes and sizes.

 

[Crimson Longinus]

I believe one of those is a chicken.

 

[EzekielRaiden]

@Crimson Longinus
Based on what you've said here and elsewhere, you'd prefer racial ability scores continue to exist. You have also said you embrace inclusivity. If you don't mind, I'd like your opinion on the contrast between what has been described (all races may take +2/+1 or +1/+1/+1, so long as they differ) and the following.

Elf (drow) +2 Dex, +1 Cha
Elf (high) +2 Dex, +1 Int
Elf (wood) +2 Dex, +1 Wis
Dwarf (hill) +2 Con, +1 Wis
Dwarf (mountain) +2 Con, +2 Str
Dragonborn (metallic) +2 Str, +1 Cha
Dragonborn (chromatic) +2 Str, +1 Not
[Etc. for various races]

Note that the above represent common patterns, not absolute requirements. Every player character is already unusual simply by being an adventurer, so it is actually common for player characters to differ from these trends. As a result, players can always choose to take +2 to any one ability score and +1 to a different ability score, or +1 to three distinct ability scores, instead of the typical modifiers for their chosen race, to better reflect the nature of their character.

Because...from where I'm standing the two are in all ways identical in actual impact other than giving you an official seal of approval on "this is the Official Flavor of this race." Which I really don't think is all that necessary, and I'm fairly sure you don't either--leastwise I'm fairly sure you have 0 problems house-ruling anything official that interferes with your intent, and I don't see how this is any different. Yet if you don't care for the above, it would seem that it is in fact that you've got some issues with expressing a pretty basic form of inclusivity: "some people just don't fit the norm for their origin." (Hence why I was so focused on the "truly average people don't exist" thing. The average dwarf may be much stronger and hardier than a human, but that says nothing whatsoever about whether a specific dwarf needs to have a minimum floor of physical strength higher than the minimum floor of human strength.)

 

[Cadence]

@Cadence

Humans come in all shapes and sizes.

Yes they do. I mentioned the record holder for shortest adult previously in this thread. So humans in D&D should certainly have a very wide range of possible scores in a wide number of abilities.

No matter how much practice they have or time they put in, the vast vast majority of real life humans aren't physically capable of being particularly competitive in a collegiate 100m run, marathon, weightlifting, or gymnastics in the US, let alone an Olympic title or world record. But luckily D&D isn't a sports simulation game.

So, have the art in the game show the person (of whatever species) who doesn't look stereotypically strong beating a Goliath in arm wrestling (or whatnot) and put the D&D setting firmly in the readers head from the start.

 

[Yaarel]

So humans in D&D should certainly have a very wide range of possible scores in a wide number of abilities.

Probably, the human Size should say "typically Medium".