Joss Whedon Allegations: The Undoing of the "Buffy" Creator

[CleverNickName]

The stuff that happened to Charisma was an open secret for a very long time. Dude ruined a perfectly good show because he threw a fit over his lead actress getting pregnant.

And also getting a tattoo, apparently. It reads like he felt entitled to an inappropriate amount of control over his actors and actresses.

 

[Sacrosanct]

Just goes to show the danger in deifying anyone (Whedon, JK Rowling, MJ, Gygax, etc).

 

[Willie the Duck]

I don't know. I think Buffy still holds up pretty well. I re-watched that after the whole thing came out. I've probably seen it all the way through five times since it aired (like you, it holds a special spot for me). Some things hit a little different, but it's still good TV with some amazing characters. And some episodes, like Hush or Once More With Feeling, are just stone-cold classics.

But while I appreciated Dollhouse at the time ... there is just no way I could go back and re-watch that.

The stuff that best holds up well now -- Buffy, Dr. Horrible, Avengers #1 is stuff where everyone is an actual teenager (and thus muddling their way through life by trial and error and we kinda expect them to make mistakes), or deliberately flagged as deeply flawed characters (who we either love watching fall, or root for figuring things out). So if Xander seems a little like a 'nice guy' of the incel variety or Dr. Horrible says he loves Penny but can't turn away from from his selfish behavior or the Avengers act like bickering siblings until they pull it all together and best Loki in the third act, it... well it just fits. Shows involving adults (and not Byronic figures like four-color comic superheroes) making adult decisions -- like Angel and Dollhouse-- well, those seem a little more off. Firefly, by that measure, is about half-and-half. Mind you, it's my favorite of his works, but honestly I think that has a lot to do with the cast chemistry rather than the premise or writing or the like.

Just goes to show the danger in deifying anyone (Whedon, JK Rowling, MJ, Gygax, etc).

To paraphrase XKCD, 'let me tell you about how important Ender's Game was to my childhood...'

 

[Sacrosanct]

To paraphrase XKCD, 'let me tell you about how important Ender's Game was to my childhood...'

David Eddings was one of my favorite authors...

 

[darjr]

I kept bouncing off Enders Game. Something about it always led me to setting it down and just walking away. Can’t really point out exactly what though. Or remember, that’s how much I just eventually didn’t care.

 

[Gradine]

David Eddings was one of my favorite authors...

Oh... oh no...

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

David Eddings was one of my favorite authors...

Could be worse.

Imagine if you were a Marion Zimmer Bradley stan ....

 

[Bolares]

I watched the movie and found the premise and twist interesting, but soon after I found out who wrote it and lost interest completelly

 

[Bolares]

Could be worse.

Imagine if you were a Marion Zimmer Bradley stan ....

oof

 

[embee]

I suspect the article was some attempt to rehab his image. At least for me, it didn't work.

Among the lowlights was his trading on the name of his mother's student for feminist cred; the likely deliberate elision of Television Without Pity (the unnamed blog referred to in the article) which is galling if only for the fact that TWOP was run by two women who, arguably, pioneered media criticism in the 21st century, and; the complete sidelining of the fact that Joss Whedon's family has been in the TV business for decades.