D&D 5E New Vecna Battle (Let's Get Ready to RUMBLE!!!) - CONCLUDED

[LadyElect]

Purely been a spectator to these, but I'm curious. Do y'all typically rule flanking as any two adjacent opponents?

 

[DND_Reborn]

Yeah, I'll TP around the corner to the flank against the shadow and give it a big ol' stab. Hopefully I'll make my save.

@FitzTheRuke so you are voting flanking gives advantage then or not?

Purely been a spectator to these, but I'm curious. Do y'all typically rule flanking as any two adjacent opponents?

To be clear, I run the optional flanking rule as follows:

B would gain flanking advantage from an ally in any of the Green Y locations, but not from an ally in the Gray X locations. The two Yellow ? spaces are debatable. Personally I allow them as I see them as the "corner" cases below:

The rule is the imaginary line drawn between the centers of the two attackers must pass through the opposite sides or corners of the target.

@Stalker0 @DragonBelow @sleepyInsomniac what are your votes for flanking granting advantage on attacks?

 

[sleepyInsomniac]

I am going to preemptively say that Vyrlims reactions until further notice will be using his Protection trait to impose disadvantage on the shadow or shadows attacking Selossen. If need be I will change the target in a later post.

 

[DND_Reborn]

I am going to preemptively say that Vyrlims reactions until further notice will be using his Protection trait to impose disadvantage on the shadow or shadows attacking Selossen. If need be I will change the target in a later post.

Got it. So what is your vote regarding Flanking?

FWIW, Ezabard might need that benefit more if we collectively rule Flanking grants advantage.

 

[DragonBelow]

@FitzTheRuke so you are voting flanking gives advantage then or not?


To be clear, I run the optional flanking rule as follows:

View attachment 252889

B would gain flanking advantage from an ally in any of the Green Y locations, but not from an ally in the Gray X locations. The two Yellow ? spaces are debatable. Personally I allow them as I see them as the "corner" cases below:

The rule is the imaginary line drawn between the centers of the two attackers must pass through the opposite sides or corners of the target.

@Stalker0 @DragonBelow @sleepyInsomniac what are your votes for flanking granting advantage on attacks?

I normally like flanking, however I disagree with your interpretation. The lines traced from the center of B to the center of the ? squares certainly do NOT cross opposite sides or opposite corners of the target. Neither do B with upper or lower Y squares.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

As a DM, I would never use flanking rules, but seeing as those shadows were slaughtering us with them, I figured I'd use them too!

 

[DND_Reborn]

I normally like flanking, however I disagree with your interpretation. The lines traced from the center of B to the center of the ? squares certainly do NOT cross opposite sides or opposite corners. Neither do B with upper or lower Y squares.

Which is why I put them as ? spaces.

For reference (although I don't want to derail the thread too much):

How can you have opposite corners, unless you mean those upper and lower Y's?

But if that is your interpretation, the only possible flanking position is directly opposite?

The red circles show how the lines passes through the corners of the enemy's space.

As a DM, I would never use flanking rules, but seeing as those shadows were slaughtering us with them, I figured I'd use them too!

Actually, the advantage did them no good in this round. I always list the first roll, second roll. So, the first rolls in both attacks against Ezabard would hit and miss, regardless, in this instance.

There are five of us participating, so I am fine with majority rules and then we move on...

For simplicity's sake, please choose one of the following:

1. Don't bother with it.
2. Just the space DIRECTLY opposite.
3. Any of the three green Y spaces.
4. The three green Y's and the two gray ?s are all good.

 

[DragonBelow]

Which is why I put them as ? spaces.

For reference (although I don't want to derail the thread too much):
View attachment 252901

How can you have opposite corners, unless you mean those upper and lower Y's?

But if that is your interpretation, the only possible flanking position is directly opposite?

View attachment 252902
The red circles show how the lines passes through the corners of the enemy's space.


Actually, the advantage did them no good in this round. I always list the first roll, second roll. So, the first rolls in both attacks against Ezabard would hit and miss, regardless, in this instance.

There are five of us participating, so I am fine with majority rules and then we move on...

For simplicity's sake, please choose one of the following:

1. Don't bother with it.
2. Just the space DIRECTLY opposite.
3. Any of the three green Y spaces.
4. The three green Y's and the two gray ?s are all good.

I vote 2

 

[DND_Reborn]

I vote 3.

I vote 2

Now we just need the other three votes LOL!

 

[DragonBelow]

I vote 3.


Now we just need the other three votes LOL!

The problem with 3 is that the lines are not crossing opposite sides of the target. Opposite sides mean parallel sides.