D&D 5E D&D New Edition Design Looks Soon?

WotC’s Ray Winninger has hinted on Twitter that we may be seeing something of the 2024 next edition of D&D soon — “you’ll get a first look at some of the new design work soon.”.

 

[Mind of tempest]

The magus is still not what I want. The magus still casts the same spells as a wizard. I want a class whose magical abilities are focused around melee combat. I want to reach out with telekinesis (or a summoned tentacle or whatever), grab a foe, and pull them onto my sword. I want to make a mighty leap into a horde of enemies and have my landing be the center of an explosion of some kind of energy, both dealing damage and knocking foes over. I want to transform myself into a lightning bolt, blast across the field of battle and damaging all the foes in my way. I want to summon an illusory double that distracts my foe so I can get a good shot in.

There's no class in 5e or Pathfinder that comes even close to doing that sort of thing.

most of that is spell design which could be done for a dedicated class, check out my idea for the imbued.

yeah Ninja comes with it's own bagage... I would like brawler, martial artist or something along those lines...

brawler has the wrong connotations as that is far closer to a barbarian without weapons that what the monk is a shadow of.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

The magus is still not what I want. The magus still casts the same spells as a wizard. I want a class whose magical abilities are focused around melee combat. I want to reach out with telekinesis (or a summoned tentacle or whatever), grab a foe, and pull them onto my sword. I want to make a mighty leap into a horde of enemies and have my landing be the center of an explosion of some kind of energy, both dealing damage and knocking foes over. I want to transform myself into a lightning bolt, blast across the field of battle and damaging all the foes in my way. I want to summon an illusory double that distracts my foe so I can get a good shot in.

There's no class in 5e or Pathfinder that comes even close to doing that sort of thing.

5e has some spells that comes close...

greenflame blade, booming blade, sword burst are great start... zypher strike and hunters mark are desent, the thing is we would need a class specific set of spells...

I want to make a mighty leap into a horde of enemies and have my landing be the center of an explosion of some kind of energy, both dealing damage and knocking foes over.

sounds great...

I want to transform myself into a lightning bolt, blast across the field of battle and damaging all the foes in my way.

perfect

I want to summon an illusory double that distracts my foe so I can get a good shot in.

yup...


let me add I want to teleport around a target or targets making multi attacks
I want to be able to commune with the spirit in my sword/ancestors
I want to blast out a force beam from my sword
I want to charge 1 enemy teleport mid way past them to hit the enemy behind them
I want to slam my sword or knife into the shadow of my enemy and pin him in place
I want to shatter boulders and maybe someday mountains with my sword strike
I want to slice a whole in reality and slide to another plane

 

[GMforPowergamers]

brawler has the wrong connotations as that is far closer to a barbarian without weapons that what the monk is a shadow of.

yeah I want an unarmed strike class without the asian or monastary vibe and can't think of one

 

[Oofta]

druid does not matter as the culture who made them is so dead they might as well be fossils at this point and are white so we would not be appropriating.

So what's the solution? Rename the class? As I said, ninja might be more appropriate and I would assume that there are about as many ninjas as there are druids. I don't think anybody thinks "D&D monk" and thinks "real world religious aesthetic monk".

P.S. there are people who consider themselves modern day druids, or a close variation therein.

 

[Oofta]

yeah Ninja comes with it's own bagage... I would like brawler, martial artist or something along those lines...

We already have the brawler feat. Martial artist might be best but all of the other official classes are 1 word. Even then, there are many martial arts styles even if the western styles morphed into boxing and wrestling or are otherwise not wide spread or have been lost.

 

[Staffan]

5e has some spells that comes close...

greenflame blade, booming blade, sword burst are great start... zypher strike and hunters mark are desent, the thing is we would need a class specific set of spells...

Exactly. I'm not saying it can't be done, I'm saying it hasn't been done.

let me add I want to teleport around a target or targets making multi attacks
I want to be able to commune with the spirit in my sword/ancestors
I want to blast out a force beam from my sword
I want to charge 1 enemy teleport mid way past them to hit the enemy behind them
I want to slam my sword or knife into the shadow of my enemy and pin him in place
I want to shatter boulders and maybe someday mountains with my sword strike
I want to slice a whole in reality and slide to another plane

Those are all cool ideas. Particularly the one about pinning an enemy via their shadow.

 

[Ancalagon]

yeah Ninja comes with it's own bagage... I would like brawler, martial artist or something along those lines...

there is already a ninja in the PHB... if you didn't see it, it's because they are very sneaky.

And no, I'm NOT KIDDING.

 

[Ancalagon]

Monk is properly a Background, at any rate. Cleric Monks, Wizard Monks and Sorcerer Monks, even Bard Monks, make as much sense historically as Martial Arts Monks.

that's the acolyte background... but yes, your point is 100% valid.

 

[Staffan]

that's the acolyte background... but yes, your point is 100% valid.

Hermit is probably the background that's more appropriate for a typical "western" monk. Acolyte is more of a priest-type.

 

[Kobold Avenger]

5e has some spells that comes close...

greenflame blade, booming blade, sword burst are great start... zypher strike and hunters mark are desent, the thing is we would need a class specific set of spells...

let me add I want to teleport around a target or targets making multi attacks
I want to be able to commune with the spirit in my sword/ancestors
I want to blast out a force beam from my sword
I want to charge 1 enemy teleport mid way past them to hit the enemy behind them
I want to slam my sword or knife into the shadow of my enemy and pin him in place
I want to shatter boulders and maybe someday mountains with my sword strike
I want to slice a whole in reality and slide to another plane

Some Ranger and other spells (beyond those mentioned) allow for some magical weapon attacks. Yes I think it's something that's lacking in 5e. Even though some of those example could just be reflavoured spells using a weapon as a focus. Including the common, "slam your weapon into the ground to create a shockwave".

I think we do have a line between special things you can do with fighting skill (Superiority Die) and special things you can do that are supernatural (spell slots). Certainly having a class that's focused on using weapon magic might help focus on spells for such things.