[+] The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power - SPOILERS ALLOWED

[Crimson Longinus]

I loved, loved, loved Blanchett's Galadriel performance, but yes, the CGI & voice effects on her biggest dramatic moment were overdone.

I like this extended version of the scene:

 

[Rune]

I'll use a different example then... The Two Towers, specifically the Battle for Helm's Deep. In the movie, the battle is about 40 minutes long, a significant chunk of the movie. In the book, I think the battle is 4 pages long?

Christopher Tolkien said the movie "Eviscerated the book by making it an action movie for young people 15 to 25." He's probably mostly right considering that the whole point of the books is describing how horrible war is, and the movies definitely glorify war.

Anyway, if the Jackson movies aren't fan-fiction, then I don't see why Rings of Power is either.

This divide is especially evident in the Battle of the Five Armies. Tolkien had his point-of-view character unconscious through most of it. Jackson turned it into a whole overly-long, bloated, and frankly nonsensical war-movie.

 

[billd91]

This divide is especially evident in the Battle of the Five Armies. Tolkien had his point-of-view character unconscious through most of it. Jackson turned it into a whole overly-long, bloated, and frankly nonsensical war-movie.

I'm OK with most of the use of action in the first trilogy of movies, including the battle of Helm's Deep, but as soon as they announced that The Hobbit was being divided into three movies instead of an initially planned two, I was worried that they would bloat with filler. And they sure did.
While I may have reservations about some of the ways the Jackson movies adapted LotR (Aragorn's brief disappearance, Legolas the implausible action hero, and Faramir hauling Frodo and Sam all the way back to Osgiliath being principal objections), I can still watch and enjoy them. I don't believe I've watched more than once or even own on DVD any of the Hobbit movies after the first.

 

[Mannahnin]

I'm OK with most of the use of action in the first trilogy of movies, including the battle of Helm's Deep, but as soon as they announced that The Hobbit was being divided into three movies instead of an initially planned two, I was worried that they would bloat with filler. And they sure did.
While I may have reservations about some of the ways the Jackson movies adapted LotR (Aragorn's brief disappearance, Legolas the implausible action hero, and Faramir hauling Frodo and Sam all the way back to Osgiliath being principal objections), I can still watch and enjoy them. I don't believe I've watched more than once or even own on DVD any of the Hobbit movies after the first.

Indeed.

The LotR movies are great, with moments of badness.

The Hobbit movies are the opposite.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Imagine casting Bombadil! I remember someone suggesting Robin Williams (RIP) eons ago, which I think could have worked. Williams was very "twinkly-eyed" and warm, and I think he'd be able to tone down his wackiness to the right level.

I still wish David Bowie had been cast as Elrond. Hugo Weaving was good (except for Isildur!!!! and the weird expression he gets at the Hobbits' antics), but Bowie would have been tremendous.

Yeah I think Hugo struggled a little with the character tbh. Bowie…hmmm that is interesting.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

Amazon should have just gotten the licence to the Forgotten Realms, instead of ultra rigid Middle Earth.

Want brown dwarves? Gold Dwarves! Brown Elves? Green & Wood Elves! Female warriors? In Paladin, Fighter, Rogue, Ranger, Monk, Barbarian flavours. Most FR eras have Halflings. FR has orders of magnitude more flexibility then Middle Earth, is better suited to action and humour and romance, horror, etc...

And soooo much more.

Just checked the Rings of Power trailer it's getting ratioed all to hell, roughly 445,000 dislikes to 75,000 likes. Should have gone with FR.

 

[wicked cool]

This divide is especially evident in the Battle of the Five Armies. Tolkien had his point-of-view character unconscious through most of it. Jackson turned it into a whole overly-long, bloated, and frankly nonsensical war-movie.

tolkien writing when it came to action wasnt very good. if i remember correctly the battle with the troll in the fellowship was maybe a sentence or 2 . i personally loved Jackson vision for the original movies . now the hobbit turned into a bloated mess (at times)

 

[Horwath]

Amazon should have just gotten the licence to the Forgotten Realms, instead of ultra rigid Middle Earth.

Want brown dwarves? Gold Dwarves! Brown Elves? Green & Wood Elves! Female warriors? In Paladin, Fighter, Rogue, Ranger, Monk, Barbarian flavours. Most FR eras have Halflings. FR has orders of magnitude more flexibility then Middle Earth, is better suited to action and humour and romance, horror, etc...

And soooo much more.

Just checked the Rings of Power trailer it's getting ratioed all to hell, roughly 445,000 dislikes to 75,000 likes. Should have gone with FR.

We will have Honor among thieves for FR.

Guess we will see what will land better with general audience.

Not sure about Michelle Rodriguez as a barbarian, maybe Gwendoline Christie would be a better cast, but maybe she wanted to get away from warrior roles for a while...

I hope Michelle will remember that her character name is Holga and not Letty.
"we are not an adventuring party, we are family"

 

[Rune]

tolkien writing when it came to action wasnt very good. if i remember correctly the battle with the troll in the fellowship was maybe a sentence or 2 . i personally loved Jackson vision for the original movies . now the hobbit turned into a bloated mess (at times)

I would argue that it wasn’t so much that he wasn’t good at it, but rather that he didn’t view it as the important part of his stories and thus deliberately chose not to emphasize it.

 

[Morrus]

Amazon should have just gotten the licence to the Forgotten Realms, instead of ultra rigid Middle Earth.

Want brown dwarves? Gold Dwarves! Brown Elves? Green & Wood Elves! Female warriors? In Paladin, Fighter, Rogue, Ranger, Monk, Barbarian flavours. Most FR eras have Halflings. FR has orders of magnitude more flexibility then Middle Earth, is better suited to action and humour and romance, horror, etc...

And soooo much more.

Just checked the Rings of Power trailer it's getting ratioed all to hell, roughly 445,000 dislikes to 75,000 likes. Should have gone with FR.

Yes, I’m sure nobody is going to watch it.