[+] The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power - SPOILERS ALLOWED

TheSword

Legend
Apparently, not very. I watched a few youtube videos purporting to be examples of West Midlands and/or Black Country accents, and it's not quite like I imagined. It actually reminded me a bit of recordings of Tolkien I've heard though.
As someone from the West Midlands and currently living there I can say that there aren’t any characters with a Black Country accent in TRoP. (Though Lenny Henry is from Dudley).

These are two good examples of that accent which is really distinctive. Gran and the Bloody Baron. Both from the Witcher 3 game. You definitely know it when you hear it. You can also hear it in the Peaky Blinders series, which is set in and around Birmingham.


I had a copy of the Nicol Williamson reading of The Hobbit when I was growing up, and I've always imagined Bilbo and other hobbits using the same accent he uses for the character. It's similar to the one used by Sean Astin for Sam in the Peter Jackson movie (although I'm sure it was butchered pretty badly by him). It's not quite what I heard in those videos, though, as a West Midlands or Black Country accent. I read that Williamson spent a lot of time in Birmingham growing up, though, so it might not be that far off.
So Sean Austin in LOTR had a West Country accent common to SW england - particularly Cornwall. The quintessential farmers accent. Which I guess is easy to confuse with Black Country because of the name. In the first video with Gran, Little Jonny has a classic West Country accent.

Nicol Williamson actually speaks pretty good RP Queens English without any accent at all when reading The Hobbit. Though he tends to use Yorkshire accents for dwarves… which I’m sure started a trend.

The Harfoots definitely have an Irish base with there own twang. That’s been corroborated by producers. To be honest I think they’re trying to evoke the British traveler community accent which also has a strong Irish twang and would make a lot of sense in the context. But maybe they’re downplaying that in interviews.
 
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Ryujin

Legend
Tolkien doesn't actually say that was the first visit for any of them. All five are basically angels. Do they really spend all their time sitting on their butts in heaven?

There are, of course, many other spirit beings in Middle Earth. Tom Bombadil has been mentioned, but there is also Goldberry, and the balrogs. Even the balrog of Moria is a shapechanger (and is glimpsed briefly in a trailer) and could hypothetically appear in human guise. And might even have fallen during the Second Age.

Sauron already fell, during the 1st age. In order for him to fall at this point, he would have to be in heaven (Valinor).
The Dwarves "delved too deep" and awakened the Balrog, so he was already in the heart of the mountain by this time. Their greed for Mithril presumably results in the downfall of their kingdom. And pretty sure that's what is in the "Pulp Fiction" chest.
 

Whizbang Dustyboots

100% that gnome
The Dwarves "delved too deep" and awakened the Balrog, so he was already in the heart of the mountain by this time. Their greed for Mithril presumably results in the downfall of their kingdom. And pretty sure that's what is in the "Pulp Fiction" chest.
The video previewing the rest of the season shows the prince holding up shiny gray ore and saying "this will change everything," so yeah, mithril.
 

Ryujin

Legend
As someone from the West Midlands and currently living there I can say that there isn’t anyone with a Black Country accent in TRoP.

These are two good examples of that accent which is really distinctive. Gran and the Bloody Baron. Both from the Witcher 3 game. You definitely know it when you hear it. You can also hear it in the Peaky Blinders series, which is set in and around Birmingham.



So Sean Austin in LOTR had a West Country accent common to SW england - particularly Cornwall. The quintessential farmers accent. Which I guess is easy to confuse with Black Country because of the name. In the first video with Gran, Little Jonny has a classic West Country accent.

Nicol Williamson actually speaks pretty good RP Queens English without any accent at all when reading The Hobbit. Though he tends to use Yorkshire accents for dwarves… which I’m sure started a trend.

The Harfoots definitely have an Irish base with there own twang. That’s been corroborated by producers. To be honest I think they’re trying to evoke the British traveler community accent which also has a strong Irish twang and would make a lot of sense in the context. But maybe they’re downplaying that in interviews.
It has to be said: All this "Bruther" stuff puts me in mind of Alexi Sales, who is from Anfield/Liverpool. (I suck at figuring regional British accents.)

 

TheSword

Legend
It has to be said: All this "Bruther" stuff puts me in mind of Alexi Sales, who is from Anfield/Liverpool. (I suck at figuring regional British accents.)

It’s alright. It’s amazing how in England a few miles can be the difference between totally different accents. I remember an Australian comedian being mocked by the audience because he couldn’t tell the difference between a Manchester accent and a Liverpool one. He then riposted by saying they were only 30 miles apart and asking the audience if they could tell the difference between a Sidney accent and a Perth accent which was 2400 miles apart. I thought fair play.
 

Whizbang Dustyboots

100% that gnome
It’s alright. It’s amazing how in England a few miles can be the difference between totally different accents. I remember an Australian comedian being mocked by the audience because he couldn’t tell the difference between a Manchester accent and a Liverpool one. He then riposted by saying they were only 30 miles apart and asking the audience if they could tell the difference between a Sidney accent and a Perth accent which was 2400 miles apart. I thought fair play.
The rest of the world assumes the English are doing this with their accents as a long-running joke on the rest of us.
 



Stalker0

Legend
I feel like people are getting way too caught up in the "accuracy" of the show.... considering even the Silmarillion is basically a hodge podge of notes and thoughts, not a real story. the simple truth is, the story we are seeing on the screen doesn't exist in any literature, its a blank canvas, so let them fill it.

Frankly this show blows away House of the Dragon and Wheel of Time, all of the characters so far I have found interesting and intense. The settings are beautiful and grand (way grander than WoT looked). The build up is solid, it is slow but I would rather have that than rush through it. Just awesome, its the best start to a fantasy show I have seen in a while.
 



There are a ton of different edits. Topher Grace, of "That '70s Show" fame, likes doing fan edits of films and did a 85 minute version that's supposedly very good, though I've not seen it.

That is way too short and cuts like that can be pretty insulting to the people who made the movies, especially if the cuts remove actors completely from a movie, just because someone thought they were irrelevant. But yes, The Hobbit trilogy had some filler in it, as can be seen by the extended cut of each including maybe 5 minutes or so of extra footage, compared to 30+ minutes added into each film in the LotR trilogy for their extended versions. And while all the Necromancer stuff is in there to pad the movies, as well as to explain where Gandalf was always disappearing off to, I would like to see the three films split differently: one or two for all the actual Hobbit stuff and one for all the Necromancer stuff. But still cut back on a lot, or all, of the battle against Smaug inside the mountain, since that did not happen at all, and get rid of the inter-species romance sub-plot.
 

And it's way better than The Hobbit. ... and the novel.
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You, sah, have insulted a great piece of literature. Apologize, or we shall have words.
It’s alright. It’s amazing how in England a few miles can be the difference between totally different accents. I remember an Australian comedian being mocked by the audience because he couldn’t tell the difference between a Manchester accent and a Liverpool one. He then riposted by saying they were only 30 miles apart and asking the audience if they could tell the difference between a Sidney accent and a Perth accent which was 2400 miles apart. I thought fair play.
Sort of like Americans think 100 years is a long time and Brits think 100 miles is a long way.
 

Ryujin

Legend
That is way too short and cuts like that can be pretty insulting to the people who made the movies, especially if the cuts remove actors completely from a movie, just because someone thought they were irrelevant. But yes, The Hobbit trilogy had some filler in it, as can be seen by the extended cut of each including maybe 5 minutes or so of extra footage, compared to 30+ minutes added into each film in the LotR trilogy for their extended versions. And while all the Necromancer stuff is in there to pad the movies, as well as to explain where Gandalf was always disappearing off to, I would like to see the three films split differently: one or two for all the actual Hobbit stuff and one for all the Necromancer stuff. But still cut back on a lot, or all, of the battle against Smaug inside the mountain, since that did not happen at all, and get rid of the inter-species romance sub-plot.
I feel differently. To me, turning a nice little story into many hours of drawn-out crap is insulting to the source material. I don't feel that way about the LotR movies. Not even the extended cuts. You know what I think is insulting to the people who worked on those movies? Taking the scenes in which those (not existing in the book) Orcs were involved, in which actors took hours of sitting in a chair in order to have prosthetics applied, only to have them scrubbed from the film with CGI.
 




Stalker0

Legend
One reason I’m liking the show is that while the characters are archetypal right now, they are played just so darn well.

I can feel nori bursting with wonder, I can feel the raw determination in Galadriel, I like the Elrond that is one a bit awkward in his action but the next so confident when he is in his element, etc.

I got more emotion from these actors in one episode than I got in a season of WoT
 

OB1

Jedi Master
One reason I’m liking the show is that while the characters are archetypal right now, they are played just so darn well.

I can feel nori bursting with wonder, I can feel the raw determination in Galadriel, I like the Elrond that is one a bit awkward in his action but the next so confident when he is in his element, etc.

I got more emotion from these actors in one episode than I got in a season of WoT
And to add to this, with clear emotion you get clear conflict and with clear conflict you get an engaging story that you as the viewer feels. GoT had it for the first few seasons, so far HoD doesn't.

And for the record (sorry for the side rant), I think the end of GoT is Martin's issue, not D and D. The reason he hasn't finished the books is because he can't figure out a way to get the characters to do what he wants for the story he wants to tell. D&D just said forget it, we'll force it so we can finish. Unless Martin decides to allow his ending to change, he'll never finish.
 

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