Stuff that is more grounded is fine imo. And it's inspiration. I'm just against special beam cannon and tornadoes from spinning. Or Hercules lifting the planet when Atlas tricked him. The basic fighter is supposed to be mundane. That's the point. Anime inspired options and subclasses to add spice and variety? Sure! Just keep it on the level of DnD. Just don't expect to replicate myth.
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D&D 5E Being strong and skilled is a magic of its own or, how I learned to stop worrying and love anime fightin' magic
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Micah Sweet
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Well, he was that strong for a period in the late 70s, but not normally, no.
Garthanos
Arcadian Knight
like wish spell that replicates Djinn ... and 4th level spells raise the dead. Just saying, the level of D&D is ummm not nearly as low as a lot of folk think.
Comic everyone tend to be better due to multiple inconsistent authors.
That's why I prefer to use Movies and Cartoon versions for consistency. And Cartoon and Movie Hawkeye is barely out of Tier 3 if at all.
He is just a level 10 or 11 variant human fighter who rolled 18 for Dex, has 4 achery feats, and has OP arrows. High accuracy, powerful equipment, but just a regional influencer.
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Garthanos
Arcadian Knight
Yeh I can figure out how to do the raise the dead ritual by challenging death but ... not so much that stunt.
Special Beam Cannon is Lighting Bolt damage converted to force. Hardly special.
Gammadoodler
Hero
Whatever it is, it needs to be able to credibly engage in direct head to head melee combat with two-ton fire lizards.
D&D martials are mostly not dashing from cover to cover hoping to evade detection while they set up the perfect strike. They are wading in, trusting in their toughness, equipment, and party support to keep themselves standing.
Maybe we aren't talking Thor himself (or maybe we are), but Thor's buddies should be fair game. As should your Spidermen, Caps, Black Panthers, Colossi, Juggernauts, etc.
It destroyed the moon. I'm just using that as an example of "anime" that would be a bad fit. Not sure if people complain about the sun soul monk being weak compared to Krillen.
Indeed.
Captain America and Black Panther to me are the epitome of the high level Base D&D Fighter should be.
Highly talented versatile warriors with various attack options, peak physical ability for a humaniod in some way, exceptional in a variety of noncombat skills, the ability to convert INT (Tactics) WIS (Intuition) and/or CHA (Leadership), and access to the best weapons and armor.
The issue is there is a big enough percentage of the community that wants the fighter to be new player-friendly, simple, stupid, and unremarkable that keeps the fighter from reaching where it matches the fantasy.
Like why doesn't fighter have Persuassion nor Deception on its class list when many iconic warriors are charismatic knights and shady mercenaries? Because a significant part of the community sees the fighter as a muscular idiot.
How does an idiot fight a dragon or balor and survive without super strength? Almost every iconic idiot warrior has inhuman or superhuman strength/speed.
Give the fighter Skills, Super strength, Magic, or Hight Fantasy Swordsmanship/Marksmanship. Or make them all options. You choose D&D community. Stop beating around the bush. Choose or we will have this conversation for another 50 years. Choose!
Garthanos
Arcadian Knight
I express it as a flying flame throwing, armored like a tank, super genius monstrous beast the size of a house.. or some such and as it stands nope nope nope.
