D&D (2024) Upcoming One D&D: Unearthed Arcana 'Expert' Classes (Bard, Ranger, Rogue)

WotC has posted a video describing the upcoming Unearthed Arcana playtest document which will feature three of the core character classes, each with a single subclass. This document is the second in a series of Unearthed Arcana articles that present material designed for the next version of the Player's Handbook. The material here uses the rules in the 2014 Player's Handbook, except where...

WotC has posted a video describing the upcoming Unearthed Arcana playtest document which will feature three of the core character classes, each with a single subclass.


This document is the second in a series of Unearthed Arcana articles that present material designed for the next version of the Player's Handbook. The material here uses the rules in the

2014 Player's Handbook, except where noted. Providing feedback on this document is one way you can help shape the next generation of D&D!

Inside you'll find the following content:

Expert Classes. Three Classes appear in this document, each one a member of the Expert Group: the Bard, the Ranger, and the Rogue. Each Class appears with one Subclass. More Subclasses will appear in Unearthed Arcana in the months ahead.

Feats. Feats follow the Class descriptions, particularly feats available to the classes in this document.

Spell Lists. Three Spell lists-the Arcane, Divine, and Primal lists-are featured here. The Ranger uses the Primal list, and the Bard potentially uses all three, thanks to the Magical Secrets feature.

Rules Glossary. In this document, any term in the body text that is underlined appears in a glossary at the end. The glossary defines game terms that have been clarified or redefined for this playtest or that don't appear in the 2014 Player's Handbook.


 

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EthanSental

Legend
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Not to get anyones hopes up and Jeremy might have said it wrong but when he mentioned expertise class, I’m pretty sure he said warden as well as I paused and backed it up to listen again and it sounds like warden to me, but he could have meant to say warrior.
 

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dave2008

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Not to get anyones hopes up and Jeremy might have said it wrong but when he mentioned expertise class, I’m pretty sure he said warden as well as I paused and backed it up to listen again and it sounds like warden to me, but he could have meant to say warrior.
Do you have a time stamp? I just watched the video and tried to listen for warden and I didn't hear it (or see it - I was watch him speak too). Just curious. He did specifically mention the Artificer is an Expert class, but not in this UA.
 


dave2008

Legend
Expertise. Yay. :-/

I hope “Expert” is more than that. Expertise is about as exciting as a + weapon: useful, sure, but doesn’t really change play style or decision-making, other than giving you more confidence that RNG will come out on your side.

To give an example of what I mean, if I’m playing a wood elf rogue (which I am, currently) Mask of the Wild is a lot more fun/interesting than expertise in Stealth.
It seems the point is less about Expertise, though that is part of it, but that it is a group they can assign things too, like magic items and feats. At least that is what he specifically mentions in the video.
 

Marandahir

Crown-Forester (he/him)
Not to get anyones hopes up and Jeremy might have said it wrong but when he mentioned expertise class, I’m pretty sure he said warden as well as I paused and backed it up to listen again and it sounds like warden to me, but he could have meant to say warrior.
Just a thought: Barbarian needs a name change to move away from a racist past. Warden could eat the Barbarian and the martial tendencies of the Ranger to allow Ranger to slide more into an Expertise role?
 


Tales and Chronicles

Jewel of the North, formerly know as vincegetorix
Just a thought: Barbarian needs a name change to move away from a racist past. Warden could eat the Barbarian and the martial tendencies of the Ranger to allow Ranger to slide more into an Expertise role?
Spot on.

Primal warrior/defender = warden
Tracking and hunting expert = ranger

The barbarian/warden just need to lean a little harden into the ''shapeshifting magical rage'' seen in the non-PHB archetypes and you are somewhat close to a 4e warden.

At worst, give the fighter a Berserker kit with a rage that gives THP, +2 damage and immunity to fear/charm for 1 minute, prof/day. And add the Reckless Attack as a fighting style.
 


Marandahir

Crown-Forester (he/him)
It sounds like they’re going back to the version we’ve already tested since 2014 though. At least per the summaries of the video. Guess we’ll find out later today
No, they're testing different versions. Packet B was created without influence from Packet A's responses. Packet C MIGHT compare the responses to version A and version B.
 


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