Dragonlance Dragonlance "Reimagined".

[Fifth Element]

How does that change the point that I was making?

To be clear, while it obviously doesn't change the point your were making, it does suggest that your point may well be wrong. If you present ideas in support of your point, and it turns out that these ideas are demonstrably false, that indicates that your point may also be wrong. If what you present to support your argument is invalid, then that suggests the argument itself may be invalid. As such you should present things in support of your argument that are not demonstrably false.

 

[Umbran]

I'm not exactly sure what the point is here...

Mod Note:
If you didn't know what the point here is, maybe chiming in with technical correctness wasn't a constructive point. "Technically correct is the best kind of correct," is a parody, not a goal.

Oh FFS, can people stop picking apart a point that no one is arguing? Take the win. Ok, Critical Role is a thing. Ok. How does that change the point that I was making?

So, as above, I can see where the frustration comes from, but this was a point where, with that frustration, maybe you should have stepped away from the keyboard for a bit.

Can everyone take a deep breath, please, and think about what would be helpful before continuing? Thanks.

 

[Mecheon]

They're all bad, just like the Forgotten Realms gods that allow the Wall of the Faithless to exist.

I mean, a bit off-topic, but its probably gone nowerdays, given being removed in a republishing off one of the books

 

[Alzrius]

A third of the pantheon is evil. Another third is neutral--but this honestly seems like the type of neutral that's actually kinda evil in itself. They stayed out of it, and therefore allowed evil to continue.

Just out of curiosity, what's your vision of a Neutral that isn't "kinda evil in itself"? Because if "recognizes the existence of Evil and doesn't dedicate itself to its destruction" disqualifies you from being Neutral, I'm curious about how you define that particular term.

 

[DragonBelow]

To be clear what I mean is In WotC published single books/boxset/bookset the campagin world should either just ignore the characters making them alternate reality, or set the setting post those books. At no point should a campagin book or adventure BOTH be set in the time of those books AND include the characters from the book in the main story.

I never played or DMed the original DL modules. I wasn't really keen in replaying the novels, or being someone else's character. However, I DMed 2 long campaigns, and 1 short one, and I loved having my players running into characters from the novels, for those players in my campaign that had read them, it was a treat too.

 

[DragonBelow]

Novels also provided ideas for campaigns. One of my campaigns was minotaur based, and it was all inspired and related to the events in Richard Knack's excellent Minotaur's trilogy.

 

[DarkCrisis]

I never played or DMed the original DL modules. I wasn't really keen in replaying the novels, or being someone else's character. However, I DMed 2 long campaigns, and 1 short one, and I loved having my players running into characters from the novels, for those players in my campaign that had read them, it was a treat too.

My current DL campaign is set about 6 months after the first trilogy and my players loved running into Tika, Tasslehoff, and Caramon as they stayed at The Inn of the Last Home on their way South

 

[Micah Sweet]

My current DL campaign is set about 6 months after the first trilogy and my players loved running into Tika, Tasslehoff, and Caramon as they stayed at The Inn of the Last Home on their way South

My point. If you don't like the novels, and you don't like the Cataclysm, why the heck do you want to play Dragonlance?

 

[DarkCrisis]

My point. If you don't like the novels, and you don't like the Cataclysm, why the heck do you want to play Dragonlance?

Most new players aren’t going to play “Dragonlance”. They are going to play “The War of the Lance” as shown and plotted out in the upcoming book. Lore will be light to non-existent.

After they campaign, they (we) will make new characters and go play the new Faerun adventure or the new Planescape or Spelljammer adventure book. Or play an old one that got missed.

If anyone actually continues to play in New DL after they complete the adventure book will probably a rarity. Especially considering most adventure books rarely go to 20.

Modern D&D seems more geared toward the one and done adventure before starting fresh with the new adventure that’s released.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

My point. If you don't like the novels, and you don't like the Cataclysm, why the heck do you want to play Dragonlance?

I like the concept of good and evil on a cosmic scale (but not how it was implemented) I like the idea of 3 houses of magic school/tower (but not how it was implemented) I love the idea of a sneaky evil goddess creating a small army of draconian warriors out of eggs of her dragon creatures. I love the idea of a death knight that was once a paladin and lost his way and now leads his own third faction in a war.

I like the idea of dragon riders on two sides of a conflict

I like the idea a world without cleric/gods