WotC Dragonlance: Everything You Need For Shadow of the Dragon Queen

WotC has shared a video explaining the Dragonlance setting, and what to expect when it is released in December.

World at War: Introduces war as a genre of play to fifth edition Dungeons & Dragons.

Dragonlance: Introduces the Dragonlance setting with a focus on the War of the Lance and an overview of what players and DMs need to run adventures during this world spanning conflict.

Heroes of War: Provides character creation rules highlighting core elements of the Dragonlance setting, including the kender race and new backgrounds for the Knight of Solamnia and Mage of High Sorcery magic-users. Also introduces the Lunar Sorcery sorcerer subclass with new spells that bind your character to Krynn's three mystical moons and imbues you with lunar magic.

Villains: Pits heroes against the infamous death knight Lord Soth and his army of draconians.

Notes --

• 224 page hardcover adventure
• D&D's setting for war
• Set in eastern Solamnia
• War is represented by context -- it's not goblins attacking the village, but evil forces; refugees, rumours
• You can play anything from D&D - clerics included, although many classic D&D elements have been forgotten
• Introductory scenarios bring you up to speed on the world so no prior research needed

 

[GMforPowergamers]

Well, more power to you. If you guys are having fun, you're doing it right. It sounds boring to me, though.

wait you think saving the town/city/village is boreing? what do YOU do to level up?

I like adventuring and going into dungeons and tombs.

okay but you have reasons right? it's not just "Hey lets go loot this grave yard?"

If we see a vampire or some wights, we're not going to walk up and wait to be attacked first.

why would you have to? does your DM often have vampires and wights that are NOT attacking you or others? If so what are they doing?

 

[AnotherGuy]

I am starting to think he may have had some issues

I cannot believe someone would have not said something like that in jest.

 

[mamba]

we are told he was a good man then only shown evil he does... this does not line up

good intentions vs good deeds / outcomes. Misunderstanding what good actually is / wants and holding fast to your understanding of it. "The road to hell is littered with good intentions". I said this time and again in various ways. Not sure why this concept is so difficult.

The world is not black and white, not everyone agrees on what Good is, not everyone agrees on what Evil is either. Even when they do in principle / theory, there is no agreement for individual acts.

The books say so too (Kingpriest committing evil acts), so are you questioning the 'did evil' part or the 'was good' part ?
imo it can only be the latter, but then there is no issue with the good gods wiping him off the face of the earth. You however seem to like to insist there is, so not sure you are very consistent here... Seems more like you cherry pick the one sentence where he is called a good man and ignore the rest

 

[GMforPowergamers]

Can't you just look at the setting, think, "That's not good as I see it" and leave it at that?

only if the setting is not holding it up as an example OF good.

Why the insistence on changing it for everybody?

TBH I don't understand why you are against making it fit better,

Clearly there are plenty of folks who can accept the Cataclysm as written in the context of that story.

and there are plenty that can not. If WotC wants to sell thousands of books they have to figure out what group is bigger

 

[GMforPowergamers]

It wasn't enough. He did evil in one city to some people. The world at large was greatly influenced by good people, the good gods and their priests.

then why is it that the good people good priests that outnumbereed and out powered evil (tiliting the scale) couldn't stop the evil?

He would have needed to repent and scale things back in order to rebalance things without the cataclysm. He was not all that was good(or evil).

again, show it... how did good cause it

 

[Micah Sweet]

only if the setting is not holding it up as an example OF good.

TBH I don't understand why you are against making it fit better,

and there are plenty that can not. If WotC wants to sell thousands of books they have to figure out what group is bigger

I am against it because it fits fine for me, and I am against making changes to things other people like. Better to make new things that other people like, so that everyone can have something they like.

 

[mamba]

so how does it show a need for balance?

this example just shows that good people can become evil.

where is this one coming from? the discussion was 'how can good gods be good when they fight "too much good"'. Turns out they didn't, problem solved. This feels like switching the goalpost...

 

[GMforPowergamers]

good intentions vs good deeds / outcomes.

except again good intentions with evil acts or deeds are evil
now a good intention with a good act that leads to an evil outcome is both more nuanced and intresting (I spared the general's life so he could go home to his family, and his family aided him in doing evil)

Misunderstanding what good actually is / wants and holding fast to your understanding of it. "The road to hell is littered with good intentions". I said this time and again in various ways. Not sure why this concept is so difficult.

again doing evil things with good intent is evil and has been in D&D for years... you don't get to be LG and blow up a city and claim 'I meant for it to help'

The world is not black and white, not everyone agrees on what Good is, not everyone agrees on what Evil is either. Even when they do in principle / theory, there is no agreement for individual acts.

correct and there is A LOT of room for grey in the real world... not really what we got in krynn though

The books say so too (Kingpriest committing evil acts), so are you questioning the 'did evil' part or the 'was good' part ?

I am questioning the 'too much good is bad' part of the cosmic balance.

imo it can only be the latter, but then there is no issue with the good gods wiping him off the face of the earth. You however seem to like to insist there is, so not sure you are very consistent here... Seems more like you cherry pick the one sentence where he is called a good man and ignore the rest

yeah I don't think I am the one cherry picking

 

[GMforPowergamers]

Better to make new things

this ship has sailed... we are getting a reimagined Dragon Lance... there is no "leave it alone"

 

[GMforPowergamers]

where is this one coming from? the discussion was 'how can good gods be good when they fight "too much good"'. Turns out they didn't, problem solved. This feels like switching the goalpost...

what goal post? this isn't a game... no one should be trying to 'score points'