D&D (2024) One D&D Cleric & Revised Species Playtest Includes Goliath

"In this new Unearthed Arcana for the One D&D rules system, we explore material designed for the next version of the Player’s Handbook. This playtest document presents the rules on the Cleric class, it's Life Domain subclass, as well as revised Species rules for the Ardling, the Dragonborn, and the Goliath. You will also find a current glossary of new or revised meanings for game terms."

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WotC's Jeremey Crawford discusses the playtest document in the video below.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Sure, but you critiqued people repeatedly giving a "big up" to Eberron's approach to religion, and my point is Eberron's approach is genuinely good and smart and more D&D settings could benefit from a similar approach.

I'm going to say it - the Forgotten Realms would be a significantly better, more convincing and more interesting setting with an Eberronian approach to religion (especially the bloody afterlife).

Also sorry but a lot of D&D settings, certainly include the FR, have a very badly-handled and confused approach to religion which causes a wide variety of problems for them and makes them less immersive and compelling than they could be (weirdly I think Greyhawk maybe isn't one of them, but maybe I don't know enough about Greyhawk).

So talk about what you like about Eberron's lore, not about what you don't like about FR or any other setting. I try to avoid objectively telling others that things they like are bad. I know I'm not perfect, but I don't know why I'm getting pushback on the idea of not yucking someone else's yum.

 

[Micah Sweet]

To be fair, that would also completely rewrite the Time of Troubles, which would rewrite a lot of FR history. Whether that rewrite would be better or worse, I can't say.

As per usual, very much against re-writing history.

 

[Neonchameleon]

I like homogenising subclass structure, and I hope this in future will lead to some crossclass subclasses.

I'm not familiar enough with clerics to much comment the changes, though it seems to me that going for strength cleric still isn't a great option. Like is there any particular benefit for hitting enemies with weapons (that requires investing to both strength and wis) over just hitting them with cantrips (requiring only wis and usually allowing to keep your distance if you so desire)?

Are we talking pre-level 5 or post-level 10. Pre-level 5 cantrips do a lot less damage than weapon attacks. Post-level 10 AC barely scales, attack rolls scale, and spell saves scale far faster than the DCs. And there should be ways to yoink spells like Greenflame Blade to get scaling weapon damage. (Strength clerics still aren't great, but the gap isn't as huge as you'd think).

Also buffers and healers don't need to boost wis; Revivify doesn't care and Healing Word barely does.

Can't say I really like the genasi-goliaths. I just want them to be big strong folk, not magical, elemental, size-changing folk. It is pretty different tone. Also, can my size-changing goliath carry around a large greatsword (with 4d6 damage) and use it when enbiggened?

You always get the embiggening - but the Hill and Mountain genasi don't have elemental stuff so much as big person stuff.

 

[Neonchameleon]

It was designed to replace the old lore. That undeniable.

I don't understand your first point. I'm saying its not "magically ok"  because its a replacement (not an adaptation like a book to a film) and not a new story.

But you are yucking other peoples' yum.

It's not the old Ravenloft. It's a remake.

 

[Micah Sweet]

But you are yucking other peoples' yum.

It's not the old Ravenloft. It's a remake.

Its a remake of the same story. Just use different proper nouns for your entirely different story, and leave the original alone. I really don't understand why that's too much to ask.

 

[Cadence]

Its a remake of the same story. Just use different proper nouns for your entirely different story, and leave the original alone. I really don't understand why that's too much to ask.

So, there's this place called Hollywood that will probably really get your goat... :-/

 

[Neonchameleon]

Its a remake of the same story. Just use different proper nouns for your entirely different story, and leave the original alone. I really don't understand why that's too much to ask.

WotC didn't send their ninjas into your house to take away your old copies. New takes on old stories is a tradition almost as old as storytelling, and definitely includes Virgil, Dante, and Shakespeare. I really don't understand the point of complaining about it.

 

[Cadence]

WotC didn't send their ninjas into your house to take away your old copies. New takes on old stories is a tradition almost as old as storytelling, and definitely includes Virgil, Dante, and Shakespeare. I really don't understand the point of complaining about it.

As an aside, one of my favorite courses in undergrad was going through the Greek tragedies and seeing how later stories lined up. For example, Oedipus at Colonus and King Lear iirc.

 

[Micah Sweet]

So, there's this place called Hollywood that will probably really get your goat... :-/

Adaptations are different mediums. Ravenloft 2e and Ravenloft 3e and Ravenloft 5e are all pen and paper role-playing games, using mechanics which are more similar than they are different, very little of which would actually affect the lore of the setting. It is  not equivalent.

 

[Neonchameleon]

Adaptations are different mediums. Ravenloft 2e and Ravenloft 3e and Ravenloft 5e are all pen and paper role-playing games, using mechanics which are more similar than they are different, very little of which would actually affect the lore of the setting. It is  not equivalent.

And how many times has Hollywood released A Star Is Born as a film? And I can talk about why Ghostbusters 2016 is a bad film - but it has nothing to do with the fact it's a remake (or the all female cast, and my best example compares a character who was male in both films).