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[Micah Sweet]

In think that healing surges in 4e was a better representation of physical damage. In 5e something with hit dice should be the way to go however the way healing works would have to be redone.

I like the idea that the amount of healing actually accomplished from a particular source scales based on the max hp of the target.

 

[Gradine]

Hey guys, has anyone figured out if hit points are meat points or not? We should try to figure out if hit points are meat points or not. That will be constructive

 

[Remathilis]

And that's always been true, so why did overnight healing not happen until 4e?

Well, Gary wanted you to heal HP in Real Time (aka, 1-2 HP per real days, not game days) so let's not pretend healing rules ever made sense.

 

[Ulorian - Agent of Chaos]

Because of the aforementioned damage types, and their meaninglessness without physical contact.

We talked about this earlier. If you have a different system for dealing with actual physical damage, this goes away. But yes, if you only have hit points, that becomes a problem.

 

[UngainlyTitan]

Interesting! How does poison damage work?

It doesn't really, not if you start thinking about it. Poisons in real life are incapacitating, if you are poisoned with enough of a dose to affect your performance you are not going to be dancing about sword fighting. Gary was absolutely correct in that one, they are save or suck and you die with out pretty specific treatments or you just die outright with out some immediate and particular intervention.
However, none of that is much fun in a game sense, so WoTC replaced those effects with hit point damage and the poisoned condition.
Hit points are a gamest structure to make fights fun. It is a form of plot protection.

I mean, what is Armor Class? In the real world you are not harder to hit if you are wearing full plate as against stark naked. You are about the same difficulty to hit but the hit is vastly less likely to do damage if you are armoured.
There is a one to one correspondence between a defence value against an enemy attack roll for a wargame unit and AC vs the hit roll in D&D as there is a one to one correspondence between figures lost from the unit (in a minis battle) and hit points.

 

[Ulorian - Agent of Chaos]

Hey guys, has anyone figured out if hit points are meat points or not? We should try to figure out if hit points are meat points or not. That will be constructive

That's kind of funny, but maybe read and understand the context of the posts before making a flippant remark.

 

[Cadence]

Why does some have to be meat-based?

It's called being hit and damaged? Because the fiction often shows the person taking some bruising and the like when fighting others? Because having it be tired and unscathed, tired and unscathed, tired and unscathed, dead seems strange?

Why wouldn't some of it be meat based? Even if the lens it's viewed through doesn't assign granular penalties so that play isn't bogged down, does it mean it wouldn't usually be happening in the story?

What exactly happens when I'm shot at and hit by an arrow from behind?

 

[Gradine]

No seriously we are definitely breaking new ground here, I think we are getting closer to solving this to everyone's satisfaction than ever before

 

[Ulorian - Agent of Chaos]

No seriously we are definitely breaking new ground here, I think we are getting closer to solving this to everyone's satisfaction than ever before

You're hilarious...

 

[Cadence]

No seriously we are definitely breaking new ground here, I think we are getting closer to solving this to everyone's satisfaction than ever before

It feels like everyone has some views that annoy them and when those come up they can't help themselves. And so when you have enough participants, it feels like almost everything will hit on one of those for someone.