Hollywood's creativity problem and a (ranty) stroll through endless remakes...

Mind of tempest · Dec 30, 2022

Ryujin said:
From the documentary "The Death of Superman Lives: What Happened" by John Schnepp. I was one of the many backers for the project. It follows the debacle that was supposed to be a Superman film, directed by Tim Burton, starring Nicholas Cage, written by Kevin Smith. John Peters was a producer for the project. Peters is most famous for being a hairdresser and, subsequently, boyfriend of Barbara Streisand. Kevin Smith often talks about his meeting with Peters in which he demanded that the script include a battle between Superman and a giant spider, because spiders are "the fiercest predators in thge insect kingdom." He didn't get his spider in "Superman Lives", so he made sure that he got it in "Wild, Wild West." You can find the full documentary on Youtube and it's fascinating.

(Watch out - NSF Language)

why did he not just seek to make a giant spider monster movie?

Ryujin · Dec 30, 2022

Mind of tempest said:
why did he not just seek to make a giant spider monster movie?

Because he had a "vision"?

Mind of tempest · Dec 30, 2022

Ryujin said:
Because he had a "vision"?

his vision is giant spider monster he had options on how to carry it out.

Ryujin · Dec 30, 2022

Mind of tempest said:
his vision is giant spider monster he had options on how to carry it out.

But he also had the Superman property. Check out the videos

Mannahnin · Dec 30, 2022

I remember watching that Kevin Smith story on cable in An Evening With Kevin Smith when it came out. Classic.

Hussar · Dec 31, 2022

To be fair, the giant spider in Wild Wild West was freaking fantastic. So, it's not all bad.

payn · Dec 31, 2022

Hussar said:
To be fair, the giant spider in Wild Wild West was freaking fantastic. So, it's not all bad.

You remember that?

Hussar · Dec 31, 2022

payn said:
You remember that?

Remember what? The giant mechanical steampunk spider that was a huge part of the plot of the movie?

It was freaking fantastic. What wasn't to like?

Deset Gled · Dec 31, 2022

payn said:
You remember that?

I remember that, but "fantastic" it's not a word I would use to describe any part of Wild Wild West. By my memory, that movie was the one that decided Will Smith wasn't going to be my family's 4th of July tradition anymore.

Ryujin · Dec 31, 2022

Deset Gled said:
I remember that, but "fantastic" it's not a word I would use to describe any part of Wild Wild West. By my memory, that movie was the one that decided Will Smith wasn't going to be my family's 4th of July tradition anymore.

It's one of the movies that solidified my hate of remakes, of my childhood favourites.