Why We Should Work With WotC

GMforPowergamers · Jan 23, 2023

Maxperson said:
Superpower sinking like a stone in the ocean?

I ran a d6 west end games "DC Beyond" based on mixing comics and animated lore into a batman beyond future... and one player pitched "son of aquaman anddolphin" who had slight increased str and agility, a very limited invulnerability, a super speed that only worked when submerged, the ability to talk to fish... NO ability to breath underwater and a crippling fear of drowning... like he could not take baths or go in pools, only showers....

Remathilis · Jan 23, 2023

Maxperson said:
Superpower sinking like a stone in the ocean?

Yup. An aquatic superhero who couldn't swim due to buoyancy issues.

eyeheartawk · Jan 23, 2023

GMforPowergamers said:
cause the setting and concepts aree AWESOME, and the world building is AMAZING... even if the system... um, lets be nice and say 'needs work'

If expressed as a mathemical formula it would be:
Everything+micro-missile launcher+skull nazis = Rifts.

But you know, I'm not a hard man to please so that's enough for me.

Haplo781 · Jan 23, 2023

GMforPowergamers said:
cause the setting and concepts aree AWESOME, and the world building is AMAZING... even if the system... um, lets be nice and say 'needs work'

Ah, Shadowrun syndrome.

GMforPowergamers · Jan 23, 2023

Haplo781 said:
Ah, Shadowrun syndrome.

For BOTH Shadow run and Rifts (and D&D settings for that matter) may I suggest TORG. the new TORG eteranal system LOOKs like the baked in setting is needed, but you can totally peal out parts and run anything

MarkB · Jan 23, 2023

GMforPowergamers said:
of the dozen or so players I know well 3/4 of us own PHB and at least 1 other book... about 1/3 to 1/2 have tasha's too... there is no adventure (not one) that we own more then 2 copies of between us except curse of strahd, and I own 2 of those.

On the other hand there is no 'splat' that none of us own... but there are adventures none of us own (one of the early dragon ones, and decent, and the heist one none of us own.

now not as well I have known others that DO own those...so it's not like I think they didn't sell... but compared to PHB and MM and DMG, I would bet the BEST selling books are less then 1/2 the sales... and some are most likelt 1/10 the sales.

I haven't bought many of the adventures, but I bought Rime of the Frostmaiden twice - once on Roll20 and once on DDB. I was running it on Roll20 so having all the maps, tokens and hand-outs prepped there was really good, but on the other hand I found it a lot easier to actually read the adventure and run monsters and NPCs via DDB.

Vaalingrade · Jan 23, 2023

GMforPowergamers said:
For BOTH Shadow run and Rifts (and D&D settings for that matter) may I suggest TORG. the new TORG eteranal system LOOKs like the baked in setting is needed, but you can totally peal out parts and run anything

"Was this game/setting born in the 90s?" Syndrome.

GMforPowergamers · Jan 23, 2023

MarkB said:
I haven't bought many of the adventures, but I bought Rime of the Frostmaiden twice - once on Roll20 and once on DDB. I was running it on Roll20 so having all the maps, tokens and hand-outs prepped there was really good,

That is why I have Curse of Strahd twice. I have it in book and roll20

eyeheartawk · Jan 23, 2023

MarkB said:
I haven't bought many of the adventures, but I bought Rime of the Frostmaiden twice - once on Roll20 and once on DDB. I was running it on Roll20 so having all the maps, tokens and hand-outs prepped there was really good, but on the other hand I found it a lot easier to actually read the adventure and run monsters and NPCs via DDB.

I think the Roll 20 modules offer enough value to warrant purchasing a "book" you already own again. Though, I'm less sold on DDB, mostly I would be interested in the electronic format and the character sheet automation. You could just get that with a hyperlinked PDF and there are third party character sheets that automate all that content too so I've never really seen the value proposition there.