mamba
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this is not at all certain, the OGL protected WotC from ever having to find out
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It is time to forgive WOTC and get back onboard.
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What exactly "literally happened"?
mamba
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TSR sued plenty of people for using this stuff in the 80s before the OGL and in the early years of the internet they would actually send C&D letters to people putting stuff on the internet.
Scribe
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??
The threads exist. The tweets, the leaks, the videos, the discussion, the NDAs, the sweetheart offers, the bargain with Kickstarter. The main stream news outlets writing articles?
Wizards quite clearly sought to revoke the OGL, and over reach in terms of somehow squeezing blood from the stone of 3PP content.
Perhaps you were offline for a few weeks, or perhaps this is the revisionist history I am speaking of.
"Never happened."
Ok tell me. You claimed "this literally happened"not this
so maybe read the replies, they told you what actually happened
Most of the replies on this forum are either hyperbole or they are interpretations of things and not things that "literally" happened
If you throw around words like that you should be able to back them up. So provide examples.
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Ok but they did not revoke the OGL.
To be clear what WOTC actually DID:
1. Posted online there would be changes to the OGL
2. Tried to get a small number of creators a contract to sign with awful terms (and failed).
3. Made a post explaining/gaslighting while they tried to convince the fans this was a good idea.
4. Backtracted, apologized and started a "play test" then followed through and cancelled their plans as a result of that.
What they did not do is cancel OGL 1.0a.
That pretty much sums it up, did I miss anything specific?
mamba
Legend
agreed, and they usually just walked away, this is not the same as having been tested in court
Scribe
Legend
This was covered. Just because one is caught in the act, and back tracks, does not diminish what one tried to do.
They did not "try" to cancel the OGL 1.0a. They intended to cancel OGL 1.0a, they tried to get a number of publishers to agree to cancel it and they tried to convince the community that this would be ok once this was leaked and they failed at both of those things.
To use the point a gun at your head analogy that everyone has thrown around - Pointing a gun at someone's head is not the same as killing someone and it is not the same as "trying" to kill someone and you can't trutfully say they murdered you or someone or attempted to murder you if they point a gun at you.
As for me, I remember clearly what happened. I signed both petitions, sent an email to DNDbeyond, stopped using DNDbeyond in games, filled out their survey, got about 10 players in my gaming groups to fill out the survey and finally I actually typed up letters to 3 WOTC employees (Brink, Cao, Williams) and 1 Hasbro employee (Cox), bought envelopes, stuck stamps on them and mailed them to the WOTC and Hasbro headquarters respectively.
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