D&D 5E Halflings are the 7th most popular 5e race

[Parmandur]

Are those dozens of options in the phb? You must have a really different one than me. Where can I buy yours?

I have REPEATEDLY stated that I’m talking about the base game. Gnomes are more popular than Githyanki? Gee there’s a shock.

So one more time. I am talking about the PHB.

Yes, and as the Sturm und Drang of 4E shows, all the options in the PHB are popular enough that removing them would be a silly self-own. WotC isn't about to shoot themselves in the foot by removing something as popular as Halflings.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Huh?

Half orcs represent Mexican culture now? That’s certainly a bold claim.

Good thing I didn't say that, then.

 

[Hussar]

Yes, and as the Sturm und Drang of 4E shows, all the options in the PHB are popular enough that removing them would be a silly self-own. WotC isn't about to shoot themselves in the foot by removing something as popular as Halflings.

Oh hey. Again. Totally agree.

I know I’m whistling in the wind here.

 

[Hussar]

Good thing I didn't say that, then.

Then I have no idea what you are trying to say.

 

[Vaalingrade]

I have REPEATEDLY stated that I’m talking about the base game. Gnomes are more popular than Githyanki? Gee there’s a shock.

Might have something to do with the giths looking like someone made an elf mummy with depression instead of salt

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Then I have no idea what you are trying to say.

You can’t parse this:

Yay for erasure of mixed cultures like Mexico or the Cajun bayou so you can fulfill your weird thing with imaginary shackles! /s

?

It’s not complicated. “Yay for erasure of mixed cultures” then two examples. It’s…really basic stuff. Nothing in that quote remotely implies any direct tie between any given D&D creature and any specific real world culture. It’s…incredible to think you can’t figure that out.

It’s almost hard to even reword it, because I worded it the most obvious way possible the first time, but I’ll try.

You are celebrating the erasure of representation of mixd race cultures. Mixd race culture exist in real life and their identity is more than “partly this and partly that”, but being mixed is absolutely part of their culture.

Removing the only specific and established mixed race identities in the game is erasure.

What is confusing?

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Might have something to do with the giths looking like someone made an elf mummy with depression instead of salt

How dare you it’s clearly only because they’re in the PHB!

 

[Vaalingrade]

You can’t parse this:


?

It’s not complicated. “Yay for erasure of mixed cultures” then two examples. It’s…really basic stuff. Nothing in that quote remotely implies any direct tie between any given D&D creature and any specific real world culture. It’s…incredible to think you can’t figure that out.

It’s almost hard to even reword it, because I worded it the most obvious way possible the first time, but I’ll try.

You are celebrating the erasure of representation of mixd race cultures. Mixd race culture exist in real life and their identity is more than “partly this and partly that”, but being mixed is absolutely part of their culture.

Removing the only specific and established mixed race identities in the game is erasure.

What is confusing?

I'm going to agree with him here that this... this is a stretch.

Half-orc and half elves aren't exactly good representatives of those of us of mixed race, much less blended cultures--unless you consider implying that both parent cultures are united in treating them like garbage... which I am sad to report from personal experience is way too often reflected in real life.

Neither actually have anything that could be considered blended cultures. If allowed to have their own cultures, they're usually inexplicably created whole cloth and not related to their parent species.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

I'm going to agree with him here that this... this is a stretch.

Half-orc and half elves aren't exactly good representatives of those of us of mixed race, much less blended cultures--unless you consider implying that both parent cultures are united in treating them like garbage... which I am sad to report from personal experience is way too often reflected in real life.

Neither actually have anything that could be considered blended cultures. If allowed to have their own cultures, they're usually inexplicably created whole cloth and not related to their parent species.

It’s not at all a stretch. The solution is to write them better, not to erase them. See: Eberron.

And regardless, you’re agreeing with an objective falsehood if you agree with him, because what you’re replying to is an exchange in which he claims that I said something I never said.

 

[Vaalingrade]

It’s not at all a stretch. The solution is to write them better, not to erase them. See: Eberron.

Eberron still does the thing where they're not a blended culture. I love Eberron, and I love that it broke up D&D's love of monocultures, but it didn't fix all the things.

And regardless, you’re agreeing with an objective falsehood if you agree with him, because what you’re replying to is an exchange in which he claims that I said something I never said.

Gonna be honest here: it's plenty clear that he, like me still have no idea what you were getting at with that post. Mostly because there's really no relation between Mexican or Cajun culture and the botched 'Mulato Tragedy by way of Elrond that is the default Half Elves and Orcs'.

And I'm fairly sure he's not happy with them going away because he doesn't want blended cultural characters (because those just straight don't exist in default D&D. Species barely have cultures unless they're drow and covering their tracks); he wants less traditional D&D stuff just in general regardless of any other ramifications.

Which I don't agree with either, I'm just not down with accusing him of some pretty egregious stuff over it.