D&D 5E Halflings are the 7th most popular 5e race

[Vaalingrade]

So you’re willing to drop the second most popular race in the game to get dryads but balk at dropping halflings?

IOW dropping things out of the phb is okay, but only so long as it’s things you happen not to like.

I would trade the hell out of elves for dryads.

I would trade gnomes and wizards for just less pages.

For my own game. But I'm not going to take people's stuff.

 

[Hussar]

I think there's a lot of that going on in this thread.

Fair enough but at least I’m up front about it.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

So you’re willing to drop the second most popular race in the game to get dryads but balk at dropping halflings?

IOW dropping things out of the phb is okay, but only so long as it’s things you happen not to like.

Hardly. Dropping high elves is dropping 1/3 of a core race. Dropping halflings actually matters.

Besides, you’re the only one insisting on a scenario where I’m supposed to be super attached to getting Dryads into the PHB but somehow can’t do so without taking another race out. It’s a silly premise.

Edit: like please explain what is hard to grok about preferring to remove a subrace over a full race, even. You’re desperately scrambling for some sort of gotcha that just isn’t there.

 

[Lanefan]

The page count in the first Pathfinder book was about double that of most D&D books, and it sold just fine.

Page count is not the limitation some seem to think it is. Never mind that even within the same page count there's ways of fitting more material in.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

The page count in the first Pathfinder book was about double that of most D&D books, and it sold just fine.

Page count is not the limitation some seem to think it is. Never mind that even within the same page count there's ways of fitting more material in.

And things other than races that can be held off till another book, etc.

Yeah, I don’t know why I’m supposed to care about some hypothetical where I have to make a choice that…I’d never have to make?

 

[bedir than]

The page count in the first Pathfinder book was about double that of most D&D books, and it sold just fine.

Page count is not the limitation some seem to think it is. Never mind that even within the same page count there's ways of fitting more material in.

WotC has even suggested that the 2024 core books will all be bigger. Some of that is the larger font for people like me (old, glasses). Some of that is because they want MORE stuff to be core (that's not in the free SRD)

 

[Parmandur]

The page count in the first Pathfinder book was about double that of most D&D books, and it sold just fine.

Page count is not the limitation some seem to think it is. Never mind that even within the same page count there's ways of fitting more material in.

Monsters of the Multiverse has 33 PC Species options in as many pages. No reason a PHB can't do the same in the future.

 

[CleverNickName]

Monsters of the Multiverse has 33 PC Species options in as many pages. No reason a PHB can't do the same in the future.

Tasha's Cauldron of Everything has 2.33x10^55 options in just 3 pages.

 

[Parmandur]

Tasha's Cauldron of Everything has 2.33x10^55 options in just 3 pages.

Hey, that, too

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Monsters of the Multiverse has 33 PC Species options in as many pages. No reason a PHB can't do the same in the future.

Yup, just cut down on the lore, which people are going to change to suit their own settings anyway, and you can fit in a lot more species.