D&D (2024) Jeremy Crawford: “We are releasing new editions of the books”

[OldSchoolGamerGirl]

They are no longer adding to that chassis, that does not mean it can no longer be used..

no longer adding no longer supporting, and making it confusion (wait there are warlock cantrips warlocks can't take?)

They still will add options to the Warlock class, but they will be based on the 2024 version.

just like they don't release new options for the 3.5 warlock or the 4e warlock

 

[EzekielRaiden]

It’s not a sidestep, I disagree with the premise.

But it would be nice to get more than a fancy version of "nuh-uh!!" in response.

Why do you disagree? What is wrong with the claim? A simple no-sale, without actually engaging with any part of the claim, comes across as not really being serious about discussing the topic.

 

[mamba]

No, but it does support the warlock it was written for. I think that's what she was getting at.

yes, but my point is that the Warlock keeps getting subclasses, just like Xanathar added some. The only difference is that the new ones will look more like the 2024 ones than the 2014 ones.

I feel like people have to draw arbitrary distinctions to then say ‘see, based on this distinction, there is a change / no support any more’.
Meanwhile all we actually do get is more subclasses, same as it ever was

 

[OldSchoolGamerGirl]

how is that any different if it were a new edition?

it's the exact same thing with a new edition EXCEPT by placing the new name (6e 5.5 whatever) you make it so no one accidentally looks at two version and confuses them.

Each table decides for themselves, whether you call both 5e or not. The only thing calling both 5e makes clear is that future adventures will keep in working with 5e chars.

 

[OldSchoolGamerGirl]

How would the old be supported? It’s the same game. Say they put out Elminster’s Trove of Secrets with new spells and magic subclasses, etc, in 2025.

Those options are available with any 5e PHB.

are they? because I have been attacked (more then a little viscously) for suggesting that a warlock cantrip = a cantrip any warlock can take.

 

[Parmandur]

yes, but my point is that the Warlock keeps getting subclasses, just like Xanathar added some. The only difference is that the new ones will look more like the 2024 ones than the 2014 ones.

I feel like people have to draw arbitrary distinctions to then say ‘see, based on this distinction, there is a change / no support any more’.
Meanwhile all we actually do get is more subclasses, same as it ever was

To be honest, based on what they are laying down, it should be easy to rejigger any Subclasses from a future Everything book to work on the D&D'14 Class chasis.

 

[Justice and Rule]

how is that any different if it were a new edition? You cannot force anyone onto 5.5, so the 5e version will continue to be played.

Each table decides for themselves, whether you call both 5e or not. The only thing calling both 5e makes clear is that future adventures will keep in working with 5e chars.

Because you aren't going to have a table where people are playing two different versions of the Warlock, or mixing different Druids. The point would be that you actually get proper internal balance changes, rather than making everything more chaotic by keeping everything while rebalancing within the new classes alone.

 

[OldSchoolGamerGirl]

yes, but my point is that the Warlock keeps getting subclasses, just like Xanathar added some. The only difference is that the new ones will look more like the 2024 ones than the 2014 ones.

and will be balanced around the new version and make sense around the new version, just like an edition change.

I feel like people have to draw arbitrary distinctions to then say ‘see, based on this distinction, there is a change / no support any more’.
Meanwhile all we actually do get is more subclasses, same as it ever was

 

[Maxperson]

I'm just making an analogy that exists in an environment I'm familiar with

Forests?

 

[Emberashh]

how is that any different if it were a new edition?

People playing separate games is not equivalent to people playing one game thats two bolted together.

The only thing calling both 5e makes clear is that future adventures will keep in working with 5e chars.

Future adventures can also be written system agnostic, which would make them more money especially if they're actually good.

And barring that, its not like the adventures can't be written for both editions. All you'd be doing in the aggregate is changing the details of the encounters and marking which system they go to. Ez.