D&D (2024) Jeremy Crawford discusses what are the 2024 Fitfh Edition Core Rulebooks.

[Twiggly the Gnome]

Also the AD&D 1st vs 2nd edition wars are kinda notorious and still going on.

Surely you meant to say AD&D '77 vs AD&D '89.

 

[OldSchoolGamerGirl]

No.

yes, I remember it was an earlier video, I will see after work if I can find it.

In the video we are discussing in this thread, Crawford said that they are not changing the subclass level progression because it makes the two versions too incompatible.

funny, that is one of the things I said would make it incompatible and I kept getting told I was wrong.

The change is subclass levels is the biggest change that makes the two versions not compatible, and they are getting rid of it in the next playtest package.

I would say the change to pact magic was equal level of change, the idea of all casters being prep is close...

How does that show that they don't care about the compatibility of player facing options again?

 

[Velderan]

Also the AD&D 1st vs 2nd edition wars are kinda notorious and still going on.

The forces of 2e were well on their way to victory when they were betrayed by the 2.5e brigade, who splintered off on their own. Truly a dark day no one saw coming in the edition wars..

 

[Henadic Theologian]

The monk is coming in the next couple of weeks, but the way I heard it is that Experts/Priests would be the next packet after that. Are we getting Monk and Expert/Priest in 2 weeks?

Yes, that means it will have Cleric, Paladin, Druid, Bard, Ranger, Rogue and Monk in it, but for most of those classes I'm expecting mostly tweaks, rather then alot if radical changes, and maybe more spells, feats, fighting styles, weapon mastery, and subclasses, with the Monk an exception.

Outside chance of a couple more species if they choose to go that route, probably last chance to do so as after this playtest they movie past the experimental phase mostly and go to refining things mostly.

 

[Parmandur]

Surely you meant to say AD&D '77 vs AD&D '89.

A rational designation.

 

[mamba]

Basically, if there are things hasn't been replaced but no longer works, there's no valid way to call it a continuation. So subclasses they haven't redone need to continue to work.

what prevents you from using them as is? WotC also said they will include a conversion guide if needed, so they should continue to work, even if you make minor changes for that

 

[Parmandur]

what prevents you from using them as is? WotC also said they will include a conversion guide if needed, so they should continue to work, even if you make minor changes for that

And now they are removing the barrier completely l, by maintaining the Subclass progression. Nothing to convert.

 

[mamba]

I wish they would just own up, say it's a half edition shift like 3ed to 3.5ed, and we could focus on it as a game instead of being distracted.

No one is forcing you to harp about how this is an edition change instead of focusing on the game itself

 

[mamba]

the point from where I am sitting is to discuss weather there will be a break of playing X and Playing Y and if enough of the people will allow BOTH X and Y together

I am not sure why this is even a worthwhile discussion. You can continue to play X, you can start to play Y. Who cares that X <> Y? You can play X alongside someone playing Y, and both will be fine, so the whole issue is moot. None of us know how many people will allow both, so discussing that is moot too.

All I can say is the more I hear about this, the less I want 2014 in my 2024 game.

 

[mamba]

Sure, but if they call it a "continuation" and "the same edition" and then it invalidates previous books of what they claim is the same edition, then we have yet another breach of trust

It does not invalidate them.