D&D (2024) New One D&D Playtest Document: 77 Pages, 7 Classes, & More!

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Unearthed Arcana Playtest

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In this new Unearthed Arcana document for the 2024 Core Rulebooks, we explore material designed for the next version of the Player’s Handbook. This playtest document presents updated rules on seven classes: Bard, Cleric, Druid, Monk, Paladin, Ranger, and Rogue. This document also presents multiple subclasses for each of those classes, new Spells, revisions to existing Spells and Spell Lists, and several revised Feats. You will also find an updated rules glossary that supercedes the glossary of any previous playtest document.

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[Ruin Explorer]

It's changes aren't really rising to the level of 3.5, let alone 2e.

I mean, okay, if you're going to say things which are obviously false on a very basic level, then I think we can dismiss your claims entirely.

Obviously 1D&D's changes are hugely larger than those 3.5E made. It's not possible to argue otherwise. There are more changes to classes, more changes to races, more changes to spells, more changes to basic rules, more changes to Feats, everything.

So when you claim "It doesn't rise to 3.5E", you're just saying something isn't true, isn't credible, isn't worthy of any respect as an opinion, and is obviously early-stage edition-warring.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

spot on seems more like it, minor revisions, not even a 5.1

I mean, to me, this seems like something that's completely beyond the pale and obviously false. I don't mean that you are, I mean it's 100% emperor's new clothes style "what the hell?!".

Inarguably, we're looking at:

1) More changes to races
2) More changes to classes
3) More changes to spells
4) More changes to basic rules
5) Fundamental recategorizations of classes

You can't argue that isn't true. It obviously is.

in the 5E - 1D&D transition than the 3E - 3.5E transition. Trying to say "this is less than 3.5E" isn't making a rational argument, it's engaging edition-war-style wild and obviously untrue claims.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Cunning strike will be balanced, not removed, before the 24 PHB hits.

And even if it isn't, that's fine. I played a thief in 2e and 3e to high level. I remember the days the mage could do my job sneaking and lockpicking better than me. I remember sitting out fight after fight as we fought undead, constructs and other immune to crit creatures. If the wizard and cleric want to cheer ME on as sidekicks while I do the cool stuff for a change, I'll consider that payment for 40 years of karma.

Payback isn't exactly good game design.

 

[Marandahir]

Idk if we grew up on the internet. Elder Millenials whose parents had money, maybe. We didn’t have a computer at home until I was in high school.

Sorry, guess I showed my privilege and spoke for too many people. :/

 

[mamba]

Inarguably, we're looking at:

1) More changes to races
2) More changes to classes
3) More changes to spells
4) More changes to basic rules
5) Fundamental recategorizations of classes

more changes than what? 1e to 2e? Probably because there are more (sub)classes now, but relatively speaking?

in the 5E - 1D&D transition than the 3E - 3.5E transition.

probably, but shallow changes. In any case I said nothing about the changes from 14 to 24 relative to 3e to 3.5, so not sure why you are bringing this up

 

[DEFCON 1]

It is. I'm already well past the point of being willing to fix and finish an edition of d&d that wotc seems to be proving they themselves are unable or unwilling to

Okay, then don't do it. No one will be upset if you choose not to "fix" the stuff WotC puts in the 5E24 book this time.

 

[Micah Sweet]

I mean, okay, if you're going to say things which are obviously false on a very basic level, then I think we can dismiss your claims entirely.

Obviously 1D&D's changes are hugely larger than those 3.5E made. It's not possible to argue otherwise. There are more changes to classes, more changes to races, more changes to spells, more changes to basic rules, more changes to Feats, everything.

So when you claim "It doesn't rise to 3.5E", you're just saying something isn't true, isn't credible, isn't worthy of any respect as an opinion, and is obviously early-stage edition-warring.

There's also the issue that many people's experience with 5e is the 2014 PH, not MotM, or Strixhaven, or even Tasha's. One D&D can, I suppose, be seen as iterative from the perspective of the full spectrum of WotC 5e, but the shift from 2014 PH to 2024 PH is a big one. Every class is rewritten, all new formatting, several assumptions changed, visually at the very least it will be a radical difference. It will be jarring, especially if, like many players, you aren't obsessively following all the minutia of this process.

And of course, that's assuming that you aren't familiar with these works of latter day WotC 5e and simply don't care for them, in which case an iteration of those changes isn't going to work for them anyway.

 

[Parmandur]

It's the equivalent of a super-splat plus eratra'd reprint.

In the publishing industry, this is typically referred to as an "Edition." But TSR and WorC have significantly poisoned the well of using that word normally, so WotC can't cleanly call it 9th Edition or 21st Edition (6th Edition would be pure absurdity), but they always made it clear that they were aiming for this to be a fully compatible evolution.

 

[Parmandur]

More changes to basic rules

I dunno, the ~6 pages of the current rules Glossary are quite minor compared to 3.5 rule changes, and that Rules Glossary represents the entire current planned changes to the Core rules.

Sure, lots of fiddling with the exceptions based rules Race/Species or Class options), but those 6 pages are pretty minor.

 

[MockingBird]

Idk if we grew up on the internet. Elder Millenials whose parents had money, maybe. We didn’t have a computer at home until I was in high school.

I think some people forget how expensive computers were. My first computer was a Hewlett-Packard with 4 mbs of ram. I don't remember how big the hard drive was or anything about the mother board. It cost my dad around 3 thousand usd. Off topic of thread but it still blows my mind how far computers have come.