D&D (2024) GenCon 2023 - D&D Rules Revision panel

[UngeheuerLich]

And how much of that is down to the god awful execution of the idea as presented in 1DND #6?

That right there is why I say this is a terrible way to do the playtest, because even if they had just reprinted the Next version verbatim, not iterating doesn't actually explore the idea to see if its workable, and popularity doesn't cut it as a shortcut.

The next playtest worked. Are there things that might have been better in the next playtest than in 5e? Probably.

Did they deliver the most successful version of D&D by doing that playtest? Yes. They did.
There are people who would say that it was successful despite the bad playtest. I think it was successful because of thw playtest. Because they found a formula that worked for most people although everyone finds something they don't like.
Now the try to get away with some of those choices. But probably, there are diametrically opposed opinions about a few elements.

So the trick might be to make both factions of players by including their prefered option on the least hurting place for the other faction.

Fact is, you can't make everyone happy everywhere, so they settle to make noone sad anywhere.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

not sure, I mostly feel disappointed about the missed opportunity

Yes. At places I feel the same. But as I said above: making noone unhappy and as many people a bit happy takes precedence above making some people very happy (and others very unhappy).

 

[MonsterEnvy]

excellent meme reference that looks to be spot on given the course demonstration set over the last 6 packets.

The last packets were not for DMs

 

[Reynard]

The last packets were not for DMs

That's not relevant to my comment. I was suggesting that WotC is going to build the 2024 DMG for new DMs and then completely ignore veteran DMs. As usual with 5e.

 

[MonsterEnvy]

And how much of that is down to the god awful execution of the idea as presented in 1DND #6?

That right there is why I say this is a terrible way to do the playtest, because even if they had just reprinted the Next version verbatim, not iterating doesn't actually explore the idea to see if its workable, and popularity doesn't cut it as a shortcut.

How they do the play test is explained. They put out their ideas and if the idea gets a mid rank on feedback they revisit it in a new form, if it gets a low rank they drop it.

 

[Charlaquin]

How they do the play test is explained. They put out their ideas and if the idea gets a mid rank on feedback they revisit it in a new form, if it gets a low rank they drop it.

More or less, but the approval thresholds skew quite high. “Mid rank” here means around 70% positive scores.

 

[Emberashh]

How they do the play test is explained. They put out their ideas and if the idea gets a mid rank on feedback they revisit it in a new form, if it gets a low rank they drop it.

That doesn't change what Ive said.

 

[MonsterEnvy]

That's not relevant to my comment. I was suggesting that WotC is going to build the 2024 DMG for new DMs and then completely ignore veteran DMs. As usual with 5e.

I didn’t reply to you?

 

[Reynard]

I didn’t reply to you?

You did, in post #54.

 

[MonsterEnvy]

You did, in post #54.

No that was you replying to me, post 53 I am replying to Tetrasodium.

Do you you have something to confess? (This is a joke you are far too coherent)