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D&D General Is DnD being mothballed?

dave2008

Legend
My group is VERY concept focused for their PCs. With 3e there was a class, prestige class, feat or combo for just about anything they could imagine. 5e doesn't have nearly the variety and so a whole lot of concepts fall through the cracks and the players either have to kludge something together that really doesn't fit their vision, but kinda sorta is in the same category, or give up on it and play something else.

It wasn't that we used every 3e choice or even close to half of them. It was that there were choices to fit into whatever we could imagine when we went to make characters.
So they need mechanics to fit a concept? Never been an issue for us. If you have a concept for a character, we just roleplay that concept. Maybe we are different in how we approach character's since we started with 1e (and skipped 3e)? Thank you for the explanation!
 

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Maxperson

Morkus from Orkus
So they need mechanics to fit a concept? Never been an issue for us. If you have a concept for a character, we just roleplay that concept. Maybe we are different in how we approach character's since we started with 1e (and skipped 3e)? Thank you for the explanation!
Yep. Often if the mechanics don't fit the concept, then the concept or parts of the concept fail in the fiction. For instance if part of the player vision for the PC was growing into one of the best archers the world has ever seen and 3e had no archery feats or classes/subclasses focused on archery, the concept would fail because every Tom, Dick and Harry with the same class and level could pick up a bow and be as good or better than the PC.

Not every part of a concept needs to have mechanical backing, but a lot of them do.
 

teitan

Legend
Its not just more books, but what books they are making, if profit is the goal, more player options and more content about stuff like that, would be made more, but...they dont do that, its not profit, its something else.
Because in 3.x and 4e they learned that they don't sell. They have increasing diminishing returns on each book after an initial spike. The 5e model shows each book continues to sell consistently in volumes to maintain profitability outside of the 1-3 month range. Players options don't sell on their own.
 


teitan

Legend
It's an idea that made sense back in 2012-14. It looked like D&D had struck out big time, from Hasbro's corporate point of view, and there was a legitimate fear it would be withdrawn, possibly for decades (which, for some of us, would be, like, the rest of our lives), that 5e was a last shoestring attempt to keep it on the shelves.
Then boom, 80s come-back, D&D flies off the shelves, boom, pandemic, VTTs finally take off - sky's the limit.

It's only in context of the idea that, maybe, print books will be falling by the wayside in favor of a subscription VTT model, now that VTTs actually work and have acceptance, that it makes any sense at all, today. 🤷‍♂️
They were saying physical books were done for years in favor of ebooks and now ebooks sales are way down and physical bookstores are on the way up. VTT isn't the future but like pdfs, it is part of the market and here to stay. Catering to it only makes sense but it will not replace a book in hand.
 


Parmandur

Book-Friend
I remember when it was more than 6 a month.

D&D's release schedule peaked in 1995 with 53 softcovers, 15 boxed sets, 3 hardcovers, 3 fake leather encyclopedias, 2 sets of looseleaf pages and 1 screen. There were also 40 novels and gamebooks that year!
When fid they go bankrupt....?
 


Clint_L

Hero
They were saying physical books were done for years in favor of ebooks and now ebooks sales are way down and physical bookstores are on the way up. VTT isn't the future but like pdfs, it is part of the market and here to stay. Catering to it only makes sense but it will not replace a book in hand.

There are articles predicting the death of print books or ebooks every other month, every time one or the other goes up or down.

The macro trend is that the ebook share of the market is slowly increasing over time, but there is still plenty of appetite for print books.
 


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