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[Mustrum_Ridcully]

This also speaks to what I'd heard as the likely reason for the gap (with no attribution to Martin, this was someone's interpretation, so thanks Bruce for Martin's take on it). The argument was that Martin is the gardener type, so he has to have his characters react realistically (given their personalities and knowledge) to the situations in which they find themselves. However, Martin did have an idea of where he wanted the story to end up. Problem is, he can't write the story to go in that direction. At least not without massive amounts of adding a situation, seeing how characters would react, cascading the consequences down the line, and seeing if it ends up with the end-state he'd hoped for (and having to scrap massive amounts of work when it doesn't).

Well, the claim is that the Game of Thrones producers/writers/whateverhollywoodtitleiscorrect learnd the end Martin had in mind for the story. If they actually filmed that, they failed at his problem in a different way - they just went to the end, without making sure it feels plausible and earned.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Sequels are hard to pull of and Empire is the gold standard. Maybe that gets it some extra points for folks, I just think its a great movie.

Empire is no Aliens, sir.

 

[trappedslider]

your emotional attachment to something has no bearing on if it's objectively good or bad.

 

[Mannahnin]

Well, the claim is that the Game of Thrones producers/writers/whateverhollywoodtitleiscorrect learnd the end Martin had in mind for the story. If they actually filmed that, they failed at his problem in a different way - they just went to the end, without making sure it feels plausible and earned.

Yup. They rushed the last season because they wanted to go do other things.

Although TBF, the last two seasons had enough badly-written details and hyperspeed travel that the issues were more than JUST that the planned arc was rushed.

 

[Ryujin]

This is a brilliant conversation between King and Martin, in which we learn a lot not just about Martin's writing process, but his (apparent) deep insecurities about his writing.

I don't think that I've met a writer, yet, who doesn't at some level suffer from Imposter Syndrome. It doesn't matter how talented.

 

[payn]

Empire is no Aliens, sir.

Oh, thats a great unpopular opinion.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Oh, thats a great unpopular opinion.

I will happily die on the Aliens > Empire Strikes Back hill. Another glorious day in the Corps.

 

[Deset Gled]

I will happily die on the Aliens > Empire Strikes Back hill. Another glorious day in the Corps.

I'm not sure how unpopular this will be, but...

Alien and Aliens are both much better movies as their theatrical cuts. The extra material from the extended/director's cut is fun and interesting, but only if you see those scenes after you've watched both movies first.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

I'm not sure how unpopular this will be, but...

Alien and Aliens are both much better movies as their theatrical cuts. The extra material from the extended/director's cut is fun and interesting, but only if you see those scenes after you've watched both movies first.

The Aliens cut scenes are mostly terrible, especially all of the very early 1980s cheese with Newt's family. The only thing of value in the cut scenes, IMO, is the revelation that Ripley had a daughter who died while Ellen Ripley was in hypersleep, but that's really putting a hat on a hat with the "THIS MOVIE IS ABOUT MOTHERHOOD" theme.

 

[Ryujin]

I'm not sure how unpopular this will be, but...

Alien and Aliens are both much better movies as their theatrical cuts. The extra material from the extended/director's cut is fun and interesting, but only if you see those scenes after you've watched both movies first.

I would swear that I saw the sentry gun scene when I saw "Aliens" in the theatre, but it's not supposed to have been in the theatrical release.