D&D (2024) In Interview with GamesRadar, Chris Perkins Discusses New Books

[bedir than]

No, but the idea is explicitly credited to "the design team," in an article specifically discussing an interview with only Perkins. Where else are we to expect that this phrase came from? Unless you mean to assert that the author is lying and the attribution to "the design team" is simply a falsehood.

I think the journalist is summing up a conversation and NOT QUOTING ANYONE. As it isn't in quotes. That's the way attribution works in ethical journalism.

Assigning that word as something that was explicitly stated when the author makes it clear that wasn't a word anyone said is ignoring basic English.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

That's the way attribution works in ethical journalism.

I think the concern these days is more with basic competence than ethics.

Even BBC News, supposed bastion of both, regularly publishes articles which are either incompetent (terrible grammar, misquotes, failing to say things are quotes) or dubious ethics-wise (for example, de facto endorsing peculiar partisan political campaigning, or seemingly failing to even seek basic right-of-reply from affected parties). Often it's hard to separate ethical failings and competency failings, to be fair.

 

[EzekielRaiden]

I think the journalist is summing up a conversation and NOT QUOTING ANYONE. As it isn't in quotes. That's the way attribution works in ethical journalism.

Assigning that word as something that was explicitly stated when the author makes it clear that wasn't a word anyone said is ignoring basic English.

So...why would the author list such specific lists of classes?

Again, you are fundamentally asserting the author is lying (or I guess just grossly incompetent), summarizing a conversation with things that are simply false. I should think that would be rather a big problem!

 

[Parmandur]

I couldn't find them either, but I guess we'll see eventually - I really thought they said something about the Sorcerer getting a terrible reception in the pre-2024 survey then them revising it so it got like, barely over 70%. Certainly happened with one of the classes.

70% is pretty high: that means the .Evian response was 5 out of 5. The higher they go over the 70, the larger the 5 out of 5 responses are to the other options.

Looking into it, Reddit seems to recall that the first try at the UA Sorcerer in Packet 5 was 74%, held back by some pushback on the proposed changes. It did better on the second go.

The Nex Sorcerer most likely didn't do nearly that well, hence why they moved on.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

The Nex Sorcerer most likely didn't do nearly that well, hence why they moved on.

There's no particular reason to believe that, I mean, you're welcome to, but I doubt it.

Especially as the 5E Sorcerer got by far the worst "happiness" factor of any of the classes in the pre-2024 playtest survey, as I recall. Something like 40-something percent, I thought. It was certainly below 70.

 

[Parmandur]

There's no particular reason to believe that, I mean, you're welcome to, but I doubt it.

Especially as the 5E Sorcerer got by far the worst "happiness" factor of any of the classes in the pre-2024 playtest survey, as I recall. Something like 40-something percent, I thought.

I think thst was the Ranger.

I see no particular reason to believe that the Next Sorcerer was well received at large,even if some people liked it: that seems to be the most obvious explanation for why it was abandoned entirely.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

The article, quoted verbatim, with the entire paragraph's contents:

"That feeds directly into the lack of new classes in these rulebooks. For Perkins, it's all about reducing overhead and complexity for new players. For anyone coming into D&D for the first time, 12 different classes (with a bonus one in the form of an Artificer) can be overwhelming enough as it is. Plus, the design team felt that there was already enough choice within a set 'role' – e.g. Fighters, Barbarians, and Monks offer three different approaches to being the party tank, while Clerics, Paladins, and Druids fulfill a similar function as the group's support. As soon as you venture out beyond those 12 core classes, Perkins says, you start to get repetition and choice paralysis."

It is not "making a mountain out of a molehill " to be frustrated by clear, albeit indirect, evidence that the design team legitimately doesn't grok the things they've actually put into their game.

As said above, the last iteration of the playtest monk is indeed very tanky. So how exactly does the design team not understand their own game? They may be just a few month ahead of you.

 

[bedir than]

So...why would the author list such specific lists of classes?

Again, you are fundamentally asserting the author is lying (or I guess just grossly incompetent), summarizing a conversation with things that are simply false. I should think that would be rather a big problem!

I am pushing back at you considering Perkins an incompetent liar because of words he never used.

I am not saying anything more than that. Fact-based discussions have to start with facts.
In this case there's no establishment of fact that Perkins said "tank."

 

[TheSword]

So...why would the author list such specific lists of classes?

Again, you are fundamentally asserting the author is lying (or I guess just grossly incompetent), summarizing a conversation with things that are simply false. I should think that would be rather a big problem!

If there’s doubt, I don’t understand why you wouldn’t give Perkins the benefit of that doubt?
Why assume he doesn’t understand?

On an aside I’ve always liked Perkin’s manner. Ever since watching the first Dice Camera Action he has a directness and candor but is also seems a nice guy.

 

[mellored]

Will it though? The playtest Monk didn't seem like it could be build as a tank any more than the current 5E Monk can be. Likewise the playtest Barbarian. In fact, the latter seemed to be less capable of as a tank than a 2014 Bear Barb. On what basis do you make these assumptions?

The playtest monk can far more easily take the Dodge action.

Deflect arrow is also Deflect attack (and later Deflect Energy). So you have a defensive reaction.

So it's less about building to be a tank, and more about choosing to tank round by round.