D&D (2024) Video previews for 2024 Players Handbook begin 6/18~

[beta-ray]

Haha I did not see this and just posted about it in the cover reveal thread. Weird how search works sometimes...

 

[beta-ray]

"Later" isn't really being informed. When we get specifics like dates and which editions, that's when we'll be informed.

They probably won't cover that in info about the 2024 players handbook

 

[Henadic Theologian]

I will say that this is just the first week. We're definitely not gonna only talk about only three classes

So origins counts Species (and their lineages), Backgrounds, Skills, Tools, and Feats? (Because some species and background give access to these other things right?).

 

[LaTia J]

So origins counts Species (and their lineages), Backgrounds, Skills, Tools, and Feats? (Because some species and background give access to these other things right?).

I think just species, backgrounds, and feats.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

Ok, not quite a new subclasses for each.

Bard: Dance, Glamor, Lore, Valor

Barbarian Paths: World Tree, Berserker, Wild Heart (Totem), and Zealot

Cleric: Life, Light, Trickery, War

Druid: Land, Sea, Moon, Stars

Fighter: Battle Master, Psionic, Champion, and Eldritch Knight.

Monk: Shadow, Elements, Hand, Mercy

Paladin: Devotion, Glory, Ancients, Vengeance.

Ranger: Beast, Gloom, Hunter, Fey Wanderer

Rogue: Thief, Assassin, Arcane Trickster, Swashbuckler

Sorcerer: Draconic, Wild Magic, Aberrant, and Clockwork

Warlock: Archfey, Celestial, Fiend, and Great Old One.

Wizard: Abjurer, Diviner, Evoker, and Illusionist.

Rogue was confirmed in an earlier video to be getting the Soul Knife subclass update as well, so one of those Rogue Subclasses might be out andSoul Knife in or the subclasses numbers got increased. Or something else.

 

[mellored]

Yeah I'm already seeing people say they believe it is intended that you can mix and match anything from 2014 and 2024. So a 2024 fighter could take 2014 action surge. Im hoping we get some guidance and that it will be clear in DDB

2024 fighter still has action surge.

And I have played just fine with 2014 and playtest characters in the same game.

But I don't see the mixing 2014 and 2024 fighters without some homebrew.

 

[htap]

2024 fighter still has action surge.

And I have played just fine with 2014 and playtest characters in the same game.

But I don't see the mixing 2014 and 2024 fighters without some homebrew.

I agree. I think if something was nerfed in 2024 like action surge (assumed based on playtest) you are not intended to take the stronger thing from 2014 with all of the stronger things from 2024.

In several discord groups though people are saying that fully backwards compatible means that you should be able to take anything from 2014 and mix it with 2024 because it has not been stated otherwise.

In my mind taking a 2024 fighter with an older subclass not in the PHB(lets assume samurai) is fine. But taking one feature that has been directly updated like action surge is not. But again no clarification yet :/

 

[Weiley31]

For Second Wind it's simple: you just use the better version from either the 2014 or 2024?

What is Adventure League gonna do, shoot your cat?

 

[Demetrios1453]

I agree. I think if something was nerfed in 2024 like action surge (assumed based on playtest) you are not intended to take the stronger thing from 2014 with all of the stronger things from 2024.

In several discord groups though people are saying that fully backwards compatible means that you should be able to take anything from 2014 and mix it with 2024 because it has not been stated otherwise.

In my mind taking a 2024 fighter with an older subclass not in the PHB(lets assume samurai) is fine. But taking one feature that has been directly updated like action surge is not. But again no clarification yet :/

Mixing and matching individual items within a class or subclass is pretty obviously going to throw things off. I imagine that you can mix and match entire classes and subclasses from 2014 and 2024 as a whole, but trying to mix and match parts thereof is almost certainly going to be a no-no.

 

[mellored]

I agree. I think if something was nerfed in 2024 like action surge (assumed based on playtest) you are not intended to take the stronger thing from 2014 with all of the stronger things from 2024.

In several discord groups though people are saying that fully backwards compatible means that you should be able to take anything from 2014 and mix it with 2024 because it has not been stated otherwise.

In my mind taking a 2024 fighter with an older subclass not in the PHB(lets assume samurai) is fine. But taking one feature that has been directly updated like action surge is not. But again no clarification yet :/

Well, the first update limited to action surge to just a few combat actions. Which was unpopular.

Then they changed it to just not allow double spell casting. Re-allowing 2 action for reloading catapults or whatever.

Some people might still think it's still the first, more limited version. So I expect most people won't have an issue when it is released.

Though I am sure there is someone who is using it to cast a sickening radiance + force cage who will be sad their auto-win combo is nerfed.