D&D (2024) Greyhawk- New Map, Discussion of Changes

[Rabulias]

Loving the new map, but I just find it funny seeing "Lost Caverns of Tsojcanth" on the map.

 

[Parmandur]

So I was just thinking.

First, I always loved the name Prelacy of Almor. Evocative.

That said .... now that I'm thinking about it more, I guess I'm a little surprised that this is one of those names that they didn't update.

Prelacy does have a specific connotation. Maybe it's too archaic for people to get concerned about?

It is...less specific than "See" is, let's put it like that. Prelate is a pretty general term in Latin for a religious authority, snd has been used for multiple religions.

See has a single obvious referent, similar to Caliph.

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

It is...less specific than "See" is, let's put it like that. Prelate is a pretty general term in Latin for a religious authority, snd has been used for multiple religions.

See has a single obvious referent, similar to Caliph.

Fair, and I'm certainly not complaining. It's not like we that word very often, and I've always loved it. It was more of an open-ended question.

Honestly, anything that gets people to look it up is a bonus.

 

[AdmundfortGeographer]

Has anyone found a previous source for Aerdiaak yet? Is it completely new, buried in some obscure source, or perhaps a previously unseen translation for the North Province?

None I know. I have fairly intimate knowledge of Ivid the Undying and it is not present at all. It appears newly made up. Though in light have preferred a derivation of the Flan kingdom that was conquered, like Ahlissa.

 

[AdmundfortGeographer]

I consider myself a pretty big Greyhawk fan, but I don't have anything like your knowledge and expertise on the subject. Thanks for catching these and pointing them out; I love it!

I’m a bit of an obsessive for lore that might need to appear in my maps.

I hate publishing my hobby maps and it has an error.

 

[Parmandur]

None I know. I have fairly intimate knowledge of Ivid the Undying and it is not present at all. It appears newly made up. Though in light have preferred a derivation of the Flan kingdom that was conquered, like Ahlissa.

Seems to be "Aerdi" with the suffix "-aak". Could be that's supposed to be an Oerdian suffix meaning "North"?

 

[Yaarel]

Seems to be "Aerdi" with the suffix "-aak". Could be that's supposed to be an Oerdian suffix meaning "North"?

Good call with Aerdi relating to Oeridian.

The Great Kingdom is actually the "Great Kingdom of Aerdy". The Aerdi are said to be an Oeridian tribe.

 

[Yaarel]

Here is a World of Greyhawk map of the ancient migrations of Oerid and Suel.

The characterization of Suloise is a reallife cultural-sensitivity issue (actually several).

In any case, we can see that the "Aerdiaak" corresponds to a branch of the Oeridian migrations. So one way or an other, the element "aak" somehow refers to this specific branch.

 

[Demetrios1453]

It is...less specific than "See" is, let's put it like that. Prelate is a pretty general term in Latin for a religious authority, snd has been used for multiple religions.

See has a single obvious referent, similar to Caliph.

Actually, while "See" is only generally used for the Papacy, each and every Catholic and Eastern Orthodox bishop holds a see. It's just the Papacy, as the Holy See or Apostolic See is the only one that has common use today.

 

[Parmandur]

Actually, while "See" is only generally used for the Papacy, each and every Catholic and Eastern Orthodox bishop holds a see. It's just the Papacy, as the Holy See or Apostolic See is the only one that has common use today.

True, fair point, every Cathedral has a See (search, cathedra) for the Bishop.

But for a large political entity, I've never heard even another Patriarchate described as a See, let alone some small German episcopal state.