Spoilers Star Wars: The Acolyte [Spoilers]

[Hussar]

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And this is why you fail. Stuff does not have to be shown on screen for it to happen. Otherwise we would be regularly watching the characters taking a poop.

Fail? I'm sorry? Am I being tested on this?

Presuming that plot significant events occur off screen is just making excuses. Sorry, if it didn't happen on screen, it didn't happen.

Like I said, I'm all for giving Star Wars a LOT of latitude. My bar for Star Wars is ankle high. I am not expecting much. But, wow, this is not good. Dropping in armor that makes lightsabers turn off (I actually thought he was damaging the lightsabers ) when this hasn't even been hinted as a possibility in several HUNDRED hours of TV and movie fair, is bad.

At the end of the day though, I guess my biggest disappointment with this is that I just don't care about any of these characters. I have no reason to care about any of them. I cared about Ahsoka, even if the show had giant plo.... oops, inconsistencies throughout, because I actually cared about the characters. I like Obi-Wan, again a show with all sorts of giant plo... oops, inconsistencies, because I care about the characters.

I just can't seem to bring myself to care about any of these characters.

 

[MarkB]

Yes, but, she died before she could talk to Sol.

It's not as though she divined that information through some form of special or unique ability. If she knew, chances are they all knew.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Sorry, if it didn't happen on screen, it didn't happen

I take it you never watch TV shows or movies then!

Your rule is simply FALSE. Lots of stuff is assumed to happen without being shown, in pretty much every TV show and movie ever. You are just talking nonsense now.

 

[damiller]

Like I said, I'm all for giving Star Wars a LOT of latitude. My bar for Star Wars is ankle high. I am not expecting much. But, wow, this is not good. Dropping in armor that makes lightsabers turn off (I actually thought he was damaging the lightsabers ) when this hasn't even been hinted as a possibility in several HUNDRED hours of TV and movie fair, is bad.

by that logic, then you couldn't introduce anything that is ever new to a franchise without telegraphing it for hundreds of hours.

In the thrawn trilogy cortosis was introduced, as far as I know it was not telegraphed for hundreds of hours. To the people at that time, it was a totally new thing introduced. and some probably thought it was stupid, and some probably thought it was totz kool.

 

[Hussar]

I take it you never watch TV shows or movies then!

Your rule is simply FALSE. Lots of stuff is assumed to happen without being shown, in pretty much every TV show and movie ever. You are just talking nonsense now.

Ummm, no? PLOT IMPORTANT stuff must happen on screen or at least be exposited in some form, or it didn't happen. That's WHY this is an inconsistency.

Look, I get that you like the show. Fair enough. I am finding it pretty weak. I'm finding it pretty weak because it's chock-a-block with stuff like this. I'm sorry, but, this is screen writing 101 stuff. I'm frankly kinda baffled that this is somehow contentious. You cannot claim that something happened when there's absolutely no proof in the show that it did and no actual reason to think that it did. That's just making stuff up to spackle over the poor writing.

It's not as though she divined that information through some form of special or unique ability. If she knew, chances are they all knew.

How? She knew because she saw Kelnacca's corpse. She, at no point, passed this information to anyone. There was literally no way she could have. So, why would everyone know? When did Jedi become a hive mind?

 

[Zardnaar]

True, but we can assume that they were more than a match for regular people and wild animals. First level character vs commoner/fire beetle. High level character beats them easily, beats giant bugs easily. (we know KotOR was a big influence on this and it has RPG tropes to show for it. Characters implicitly get low on hp).

One thing about the High Republic era - there are thousands of jedi. That means the order must be much less selective in recruitment, so a fair few are not particularly good at being jedi. That is why they are using uniforms and standard issue sabres to maintain the peace, rather than actual Force power.

I look at them as 80s karate practitioners. Then MMA rolls around and they've been wasting their time.

 

[Hussar]

by that logic, then you couldn't introduce anything that is ever new to a franchise without telegraphing it for hundreds of hours.

In the thrawn trilogy cortosis was introduced, as far as I know it was not telegraphed for hundreds of hours. To the people at that time, it was a totally new thing introduced. and some probably thought it was stupid, and some probably thought it was totz kool.

That's not logic.

I absolutely cannot believe that I'M having to defend canon. Good grief. It's bad because there was no way for anyone who hasn't read a thirty year old book to know what this stuff is. It's just there. For no reason. Light Sabers suddenly sputter out. Something that's never happened EVER in ANY Star Wars movie or TV show. And it's given ZERO explanation. None. The characters don't even say, "Hey, WTF is that?"

 

[Zardnaar]

by that logic, then you couldn't introduce anything that is ever new to a franchise without telegraphing it for hundreds of hours.

In the thrawn trilogy cortosis was introduced, as far as I know it was not telegraphed for hundreds of hours. To the people at that time, it was a totally new thing introduced. and some probably thought it was stupid, and some probably thought it was totz kool.

I Jedi first appearance, Thrawn duology featured it. McGuffin in Thrawn trilogy was those force bubble creatures.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Ummm, no? PLOT IMPORTANT stuff must happen on screen or at least be exposited in some form, or it didn't happen. That's WHY this is an inconsistency.

Ever watch Brief Encounter? The entite plot is unspoken. Good writing lets the audience work things out, it doesn't treat them like idiots or babies.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

The characters don't even say, "Hey, WTF is that?"

This is a case in point. They don't say it in words, but the do say that in their expressions. It's called acting.