D&D Historian Benn Riggs On Gary Gygax & Sexism

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The recent book The Making of Original Dungeons & Dragons 1970-1977 talks about the early years of D&D. In the book, authors Jon Peterson and Jason Tondro talk about the way the game, and its writers, approached certain issues. Not surprisingly, this revelation received aggressive "pushback" on social media because, well, that sort of thing does--in fact, one designer who worked with Gygax at the time labelled it "slanderous".

D&D historian Ben Riggs--author of Slaying the Dragon--delved into the facts. Note that the below was posted on Twitter, in that format, not as an article.

D&D Co-Creator Gary Gygax was Sexist. Talking About it is Key to Preserving his Legacy.

The internet has been rending its clothes and gnashing its teeth over the introduction to an instant classic of TTRPG history, The Making of Original D&D 1970-1977. Published by Wizards of the Coast, it details the earliest days of D&D’s creation using amazing primary source materials.

Why then has the response been outrage from various corners of the internet? Well authors Jon Peterson and Jason Tondro mention that early D&D made light of slavery, disparaged women, and gave Hindu deities hit points. They also repeated Wizard’s disclaimer for legacy content which states:"These depictions were wrong then and are wrong today. This content is presented as it was originally created, because to do otherwise would be the same as claiming these prejudices never existed."

In response to this, an army of grognards swarmed social media to bite their shields and bellow. Early D&D author Rob Kuntz described Peterson and Tondro’s work as “slanderous.” On his Castle Oldskull blog, Kent David Kelly called it “disparagement.” These critics are accusing Peterson and Tondro of dishonesty. Lying, not to put too fine a point on it.So, are they lying? Are they making stuff up about Gary Gygax and early D&D?

Well, let's look at a specific example of what Peterson and Tondro describe as “misogyny “ from 1975's Greyhawk. Greyhawk was the first supplement ever produced for D&D. Written by Gary Gygax and Rob Kuntz, the same Rob Kuntz who claimed slander above, it was a crucial text in the history of the game. For example, it debuted the thief character class. It also gave the game new dragons, among them the King of Lawful Dragons and the Queen of Chaotic Dragons. The male dragon is good, and female dragon is evil. (See Appendix 1 below for more.)

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It is a repetition of the old trope that male power is inherently good, and female power is inherently evil. (Consider the connotations of the words witch and wizard, with witches being evil by definition, for another example.)

Now so-called defenders of Gygax and Kuntz will say that my reading of the above text makes me a fool who wouldn’t know dragon’s breath from a virtue signal. I am ruining D&D with my woke wokeness. Gygax and Kuntz were just building a fun game, and decades later, Peterson and Tondro come along to crap on their work by screeching about misogyny.

(I would also point out that as we are all white men of a certain age talking about misogyny, the worst we can expect is to be flamed online. Women often doing the same thing get rape or death threats.)

Critics of their work would say that Peterson and Tondro are reading politics into D&D. Except that when we return to the Greyhawk text, we see that it was actually Gygax and Kuntz who put “politics” into D&D.

The text itself comments on the fact that the lawful dragon is male, and the chaotic one is female. Gygax and Kuntz wrote: “Women’s lib may make whatever they wish from the foregoing.”


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The intent is clear. The female is a realm of chaos and evil, so of course they made their chaotic evil dragon a queen.

Yes, Gygax and Kuntz are making a game, but it is a game whose co-creator explicitly wrote into the rules that feminine power—perhaps even female equality—is by nature evil. There is little room for any other interpretation.

The so-called defenders of Gygax may now say that he was a man of his time, he didn’t know better, or some such. If only someone had told him women were people too in 1975! Well, Gygax was criticized for this fact of D&D at the time. And he left us his response.

Writing in EUROPA, a European fanzine, Gygax said:“I have been accused of being a nasty old sexist-male-Chauvinist-pig, for the wording in D&D isn’t what it should be. There should be more emphasis on the female role, more non-gendered names, and so forth."

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"I thought perhaps these folks were right and considered adding women in the ‘Raping and Pillaging[’] section, in the ‘Whores and Tavern Wenches’ chapter, the special magical part dealing with ‘Hags and Crones’...and thought perhaps of adding an appendix on ‘Medieval Harems, Slave Girls, and Going Viking’. Damn right I am sexist. It doesn’t matter to me if women get paid as much as men, get jobs traditionally male, and shower in the men’s locker room."

"They can jolly well stay away from wargaming in droves for all I care. I’ve seen many a good wargame and wargamer spoiled thanks to the fair sex. I’ll detail that if anyone wishes.”


So just to summarize here, Gygax wrote misogyny into the D&D rules. When this was raised with him as an issue at the time, his response was to offer to put rules on rape and sex slavery into D&D.

The outrage online directed at Peterson and Tondro is not only entirely misplaced and disproportional, and perhaps even dishonest in certain cases...

Part 2: D&D Co-Creator Gary Gygax was Sexist. Talking About it is Key to Preserving his Legacy....it is also directly harming the legacies of Gygax, Arneson, Kuntz and the entire first generation of genius game designers our online army of outraged grognards purport to defend.

How? Let me show you.The D&D player base is getting more diverse in every measurable way, including age, gender, sexual orientation, and race. To cite a few statistics, 81% of D&D players are Millenials or Gen Z, and 39% are women. This diversity is incredible, and not because the diversity is some blessed goal unto itself. Rather, the increasing diversity of D&D proves the vigor of the TTRPG medium. Like Japanese rap music or Soviet science fiction, the transportation of a medium across cultures, nations, and genders proves that it is an important method for exploring the human condition. And while TTRPGs are a game, they are also clearly an important method for exploring the human condition. The fact the TTRPG fanbase is no longer solely middle-aged Midwestern cis men of middle European descent...

...the fact that non-binary blerds and Indigenous trans women and fat Polish-American geeks like me and people from every bed of the human vegetable garden ...

find meaning in a game created by two white guys from the Midwest is proof that Gygax and Arneson were geniuses who heaved human civilization forward, even if only by a few feet.

So, as a community, how do we deal with the ugly prejudices of our hobby’s co-creator who also baked them into the game we love? We could pretend there is no problem at all, and say that anyone who mentions the problem is a liar. There is no misogyny to see. There is no **** and there is no stink, and anyone who says there is naughty word on your sneakers is lying and is just trying to embarrass you.

I wonder how that will go? Will all these new D&D fans decide that maybe D&D isn’t for them? They know the stink of misogyny, just like they know **** when they smell it. To say it isn’t there is an insult to their intelligence. If they left the hobby over this, it would leave our community smaller, poorer, and suggest that the great work of Gygax, Arneson, Kuntz, and the other early luminaries on D&D was perhaps not so great after all…

We could take the route of Disney and Song of the South. Wizards could remove all the PDFs of early D&D from DriveThruRPG. They could refuse to ever reprint this material again. Hide it. Bury it. Erase it all with copyright law and lawyers. Yet no matter how deeply you bury the past, it always tends to come back up to the surface again. Heck, there are whole podcast series about that. And what will all these new D&D fans think when they realize that a corporation tried to hide its own mistakes from them?

Again, maybe they decide D&D isn’t the game for them. Or maybe when someone tells you there is **** on your shoe, you say thanks, clean it off, and move on.

We honor the old books, but when they tell a reader they are a lesser human being, we should acknowledge that is not the D&D of 2024. Something like...

“Hey reader, we see you in all your wondrous multiplicity of possibility, and if we were publishing this today, it wouldn’t contain messages and themes telling some of you that you are less than others. So we just want to warn you. That stuff’s in there.”

Y’know, something like that legacy content warning they put on all those old PDFs on DriveThruRPG. And when we see something bigoted in old D&D, we talk about it. It lets the new, broad, and deep tribe of D&D know that we do not want bigotry in D&D today. Talking about it welcomes the entire human family into the hobby.To do anything less is to damn D&D to darkness. It hobbles its growth, gates its community, denies the world the joy of the game, and denies its creators their due. D&D’s creators were visionary game designers. They were also people, and people are kinda ****** up. So a necessary step in making D&D the sort of cultural pillar that it deserves to be is to name its bigotries and prejudices when you see them. Failure to do so hurts the game by shrinking our community and therefore shrinking the legacy of its creators.

Appendix 1: Yeah, I know Chaos isn’t the same as Evil in OD&D.

But I would also point out as nerdily as possible that on pg. 9 of Book 1 of OD&D, under “Character Alignment, Including Various Monsters and Creatures,” Evil High Priests are included under the “Chaos” heading, along with the undead. So I would put to you that Gygax did see a relationship between Evil and Chaos at the time.

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I try to solve the King and Queen of dragons case.

Swap gender, swap alignement, multi genders, multi alignements, on each scenario I just find more arguments being sexist or not enough inclusive.
On the extreme scenario both are all genders, all alignements, all color and metal at the same time. Which don’t solve anything.

I fail to solve that case.
I think @Charlaquin (if memory still serves me) has done some great creative work on Tiamat if I'm not mistaken. They had a really imaginative write up recently on their draconic cosmology. I know I saved it somewhere.

EDIT: @Charlaquin if it was you, could you please provide us with your alternate writeup on your draconic lore. I need to stop saving everything as a favourite and then not being able to find anything.
 
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It kind of does, though, doesn't it?

If a state ratified the amendment that means the people in power, who were put there by the populace, agreed with the ERA enough to ratify it. If they didn't, then they didn't agree with the ERA enough to ratify it. And by the commutative function, neither did enough of their populace.

Otherwise people who -did- support it would've been in political power.

Not all politics are life-and-death, winner-take-all politics. It meant that enough of the state's representatives were okay with it.

As far as California being much more progressive than Wisconsin in the 1970s... No. No it really wasn't. Don't get me wrong, San Fran and NYC were wild in the 60s and 70s for the LGBTQ+ community... but the state itself? Check out the Governor from 67 to 75. Check out their electoral college votes prior to 1992.

California became a liberal stronghold in the 90s. It wasn't before that point. Most of the time it had a fairly split government.

Back then, states were seemingly more interested in state politics rather than being national sock puppets. Being a 'stronghold' wasn't what it is today.

However, both states had large, forward looking industries that were already opening more 'suites' to women, and not just leaving them in the typing pool.
 

I'm not suggesting that at all. Keep those items in if they're important to the game's conception. Then allow the reader to take away what they want from those things. We don't need to take a highlighter to them and tell folks "These are the bad parts."
I think we do.

Riggs's thread here is predicated on the fact that people reacted to the inclusion of a content warning as if it was some horrible slander.

It's also very easy to see sexism in regular practice in so many areas in modern life.

Too many people don't know that these are bad parts. We'll know when no one needs to be told, because the inclusion of such a thing will no longer trigger the hostility that this has. Too many people don't know that these are the bad parts.
 


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Not all politics are life-and-death, winner-take-all politics. It meant that enough of the state's representatives were okay with it.

It definitely was to conservatives at the time, though. They mobilized rather hard against it. The ERA was big politics and a big clash, and trying to minimize it in this fashion is disingenuous.

Back then, states were seemingly more interested in state politics rather than being national sock puppets. Being a 'stronghold' wasn't what it is today.

What? No, it's because the state's politics evolved over time. Strongholds were absolutely strongholds as we think of them, but California's politics evolved greatly. Wisconsin's progressive nature has been a thing for a while, which is why the Tea Party switchover was such a big moment in their state politics.

However, both states had large, forward looking industries that were already opening more 'suites' to women, and not just leaving them in the typing pool.

Ehhh? I dunno how we qualify that.
 

Framing someone based on their race is passing judgement. Cultural appropriation is modern and controversial, and in application, passing judgement.

A lot of world historical and (then) current beliefs were 'recast' in D&D, including angels, which appeared in The Dragon. That's also reflective of some of those Appendix N works.

But framing them based on their socio-economic status isn't? And Cultural appropriation is difficult to navigate, that doesn't make it modern.

Also, for someone "passing judgement" they sure did leave an easy out for those people. That, because of their situation.. they might just have been ignorant of any potential harm. However, important to note, that doesn't mean they didn't do harm, just that it wasn't malicious. And no one is saying that the entire wargaming community was malicious, just that they had a more limited viewpoint, and with that more limited viewpoint, they did things that weren't really kind to other people. You mention angels, but you don't mention Jesus. And, for many many many people, Vishnu is their Jesus (in a horribly stretched and contorted comparison between two completely unlike religions). It would have outraged people in the extreme if Deities and Demigods had included Jesus, Saint Peter, or the Twelve Apostles, especially if those entries had been next to The Grey Mouser, the gods and powers from the Melnibonean series, and Cthulhu. It is completely fair for a historian to look back on Vishnu, Shiva, and Ganesh getting that identical treatment and saying "this was likely offensive to many believers in Hinduism, and I acknowledge that. They were not given equal respect."

I mentioned it in a separate response but, GG comes across as fairly pedestrian in his sexism back in the early 70s.

Who cares if it is pedestrian? Sexism is sexism. I don't see a video of someone in a foreign country beating their child bloody with a cane and go "well, that is rather pedestrian for the region they live in, so I can't call it child abuse." It is child abuse, doesn't matter if it happens in a foreign country tomorrow, this country fifty years ago, or on the planet Vatu in the 3000's.
 

I try to solve the King and Queen of dragons case.

Swap gender, swap alignement, multi genders, multi alignements, on each scenario I just find more arguments being sexist or not enough inclusive.
On the extreme scenario both are all genders, all alignements, all color and metal at the same time. Which don’t solve anything.

I fail to solve that case.
The answer is to just have it be a thing without making a thing of it.

Having good and evil masculine and feminine and nonbinary and agender deities in a fairly random hodge-podge is totally normal and not a big deal.

It's when you make it a statement using women as evil or do it so often that it becomes an obvious bias that it becomes an issue.

Gygax specifically went "Whatever women's lib might think" in order to point out that he was specifically making the evil dragon deity a woman and going "What're you gonna do about it, Feminists?" in that moment.
 

I think ... and this may be overly pessimistic ... that there are people today who privately hold opinions pretty close to (or even beyond) GG's, but they know they can't get away with saying so in public, so they temper their speech. Thus, a blunt statement like "Women ruin wargames" (or action movies or what have you) is so shocking that hearing it is a sign that the speaker secretly holds even more sexist views that are going unsaid. So we react to the statement going beyond the face value, based on reading into those blanks. Like, "If this is the edited version, how extreme must the unedited version be?" But when there isn't the social pressure to edit, the face value may be all there is. Doesn't mean the face value isn't still pretty reprehensible.

Does that help at all?

See, I think this gets to a completely different thing though.

No one here is calling for Gary Con to be torn down. No one here is saying we should burn the Gygax museum to the ground. No one is claiming that his living children must send $1 million to support women's causes. No one is saying we must retrieve his soul from beyond the veil to strap it to the machine of eternal torment and...

We are calling the man a sexist. That's it. That's as far as it is going. We aren't claiming he was secretly a murderer, or secretly a child abuser, or secretly a wife beater... We are calling the man a sexist. That is it.

So, the idea that we are reading into "what was the unedited version..." seems silly to me. Because the unedited version of blatant sexism... is just more sexism. Gary Gygax was a sexist man. That is all. That is the extent of the conversation that was set out on. Saying "but he wasn't any worse than that!"... is beside the point. We aren't accusing him of being worse than that.
 

The answer is to just have it be a thing without making a thing of it.

Having good and evil masculine and feminine and nonbinary and agender deities in a fairly random hodge-podge is totally normal and not a big deal.

It's when you make it a statement using women as evil or do it so often that it becomes an obvious bias that it becomes an issue.

Gygax specifically went "Whatever women's lib might think" in order to point out that he was specifically making the evil dragon deity a woman and going "What're you gonna do about it, Feminists?" in that moment.

Yeah, Gygax making his commentary kind of reminds me of this in regards to the whole Tiamat thing.

 

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