D&D General I'm a Creep, I'm a Powergamer: How Power Creep Inevitably Destroys Editions

[TiQuinn]

The point of Monsters is to be buzzsawed...? By design, they are meant to last 2 Rounds, sometimes 3.

Some monsters maybe? Not all of them.

 

[TiQuinn]

not sure about that, the power creep always was why I decided against buying more books. Without it I might not have been as strict with my 'stick to the core books' rule

I would say you are an exception to the other folks who bought splatbooks over the years.

 

[Parmandur]

Some monsters maybe? Not all of them.

Quite literally all of them: WotC aims to have all Monsters last 2-3 Roinds, weighted. Lre towards 2 or less. Monsters of the Multiverse makes the Monsters more likely to work as intended that way.

 

[TiQuinn]

Quite literally all of them: WotC aims to have all Monsters last 2-3 Roinds, weighted. Lre towards 2 or less. Monsters of the Multiverse makes the Monsters more likely to work as intended that way.

My goal is to extend the life of the monsters depending on the encounter and shorten the time to move through rounds.

 

[Parmandur]

My goal is to extend the life of the monsters depending on the encounter and shorten the time to move through rounds.

OK, fair enough, but that ia the opposite of what the CR is designed to accomplish.

 

[TiQuinn]

OK, fair enough, but that ia the opposite of what the CR is designed to accomplish.

Okay but I’d argue there are monsters for which buzzsawing occurs in a single round so even by that standard, it still fails. Whatever. It’s not my cup of tea.

 

[Parmandur]

Okay but I’d argue there are monsters for which buzzsawing occurs in a single round so even by that standard, it still fails. Whatever. It’s not my cup of tea.

That is fine, as long as that buzzsawijg taps some resources. Monsters are a resource attrition speed-up, that's what CR is designed to facilitate. Not your cup of tea, fair, but that's what the system is built to do.

 

[TiQuinn]

Monsters are a resource attrition speed-up, that's what CR is designed to facilitate. Not your cup of tea, fair, but that's what the system is built to do.

Okay is this back to that 5 to 7 encounters per day stuff? Because I didn’t find that to be accurate either.

 

[Parmandur]

Okay is this back to that 5 to 7 encounters per day stuff? Because I didn’t find that to be accurate either.

I mean, I am not sure how it can be "accurate" or "inaccurate" but yeah that is how 5E is balanced: 12-24 Combat Rounds spread between 6-8 Encounters between Long Rests. Anything less isn't going to push the players much at all

 

[TiQuinn]

I mean, I am not sure how it can be "accurate" or "inaccurate" but yeah that is how 5E is balanced: 12-24 Combat Rounds spread between 6-8 Encounters between Long Rests. Anything less isn't going to push the players much at all

Okay let’s just say I don’t see the utility of challenge rating but am totally cool that you do.