WotC WotC Removes Digital Content Team Credits From D&D Beyond

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According to Faith Elisabeth Lilley, who was on the digital content team at Wizards of the Coast, the contributor credits for the team have been removed from DDB.

The team was responsible for content feedback and the implementation of book content on the online platform. While it had been indicated to them that they would not be included in the credits of the physical books for space reasons, WotC apparently agreed to include them in the online credits.

It appears that those credits have now been removed.

I just discovered that I have been removed from book credits on D&D Beyond for books I worked on while at Wizards of the Coast.

Background:

While at Wizards (so after D&D Beyond was purchased) - with numerous books, my digital content team and I worked directly with the book team on the content, reading through rules drafts, suggesting changes, giving ideas, and catching issues. We had a full database of the content and understood exactly how it interacted.

Given that we were contributing to the content in the books, I felt it reasonable to request that team be added to the credits, but was informed the credits section was already too crowded with the number of people involved and many of the marketing team had already been dropped from credits. I felt strongly that anyone actually contributing to what is in the printed book should be credited though, so we agreed a compromise, that the team would be added to the credits page on D&D Beyond only, as there is no issue with "not enough space" on a web page.

I've added screenshots here that I had for some of the books.

At some point recently, those credits pages have been edited to remove the credits for me and the content team. Nobody reached out to let me know - it just happened at some point, and I only just noticed.

We've even been removed from the digital-only releases, that only released on D&D Beyond, such as the Spelljammer Academy drops.

I'm not angry or upset, just yet again, really disappointed, as somehow I expected better.

EDIT TO ADD MORE CONTEXT

It's not just getting the books online. I worked with Kyle & Dan to improve the overall book process from ideation to delivery across all mediums (you should have seen the huge process charts I built out...)

The lead designers would send over the rules for each new rulebook and we'd go through it, give feedback, highlight potential balance issues, look at new rules/design that was difficult to implement digitally and suggest tweaks to improve it etc etc. We even had ideas for new content that was then included in the book.

We'd go through the whole book in detail, catching inconsistencies and miscalculations, and I'm proud to say that we dramatically reduced the need for clarifications or errata on those books.

I'm not saying anyone on the design or book team was careless - far from it, they're consummate professionals - I am just illustrating the role my team and I had in contributing to the content, quality & success of the physical books, let alone the digital versions.

We should have been in the credits section of the physical printed book. We were part of the creative process. That was something we were actively discussing when I was informed I was being laid off.

Adding the team to the credits pages just on D&D Beyond was, as I mentioned above, a compromise while we figured things out.

My team were fully credited on the Cortex: Prime and Tales of Xadia books when D&D Beyond was still part of Fandom, before the Wizards acquisition.

In fact for those books we made sure to credit the entire digital development team, including developers, community managers and so forth - everyone who helped make the book successful.

I know that Wizards has hundreds of people involved and previously hit issues with the number of people in credits for D&D books, so pulled back from crediting some roles.

Would it be so bad to have to dedicate extra space in a book to the people whose contributions made the book successful?

I really don't think it would.
 

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Stated like someone who does not do creative work.
Stated like someone is asking questions to creative who make money or work for credit.
Follow up question, a person name gets into the credits. Some time later they do something socially unacceptable. Should their name be removed? If so, isn't the company now hurting naughty Jasper for something not involved in the work?
And restate especially for the Coastal Creatives, can a prospective client ask your former employers ask the following:
Did Creative work for on project x?
Why is Creative not list in the end credits?
What did you pay Creative?

In my line of work, all my employer can say is the dates I worked for them.
 

Stated like someone is asking questions to creative who make money or work for credit.
Follow up question, a person name gets into the credits. Some time later they do something socially unacceptable. Should their name be removed? If so, isn't the company now hurting naughty Jasper for something not involved in the work?
And restate especially for the Coastal Creatives, can a prospective client ask your former employers ask the following:
Did Creative work for on project x?
Why is Creative not list in the end credits?
What did you pay Creative?

In my line of work, all my employer can say is the dates I worked for them.
I'm really not sure what getting "cancelled" has to do with any of it.
 

I'm really not sure what getting "cancelled" has to do with any of it.
It is the other side of gripe. To Sum up
What is the amount work you have to do to get credit in the end credits (or similar credit thingy)?
If you do get credit? What are your recourses if the company removes from the credit over non work related or heck even work related items?

Plus did not have cancelled in my paragraph.
 

It is the other side of gripe. To Sum up
What is the amount work you have to do to get credit in the end credits (or similar credit thingy)?
Whatever is agreed upon in the contract.
If you do get credit? What are your recourses if the company removes from the credit over non work related or heck even work related items?
That's what lawyers are for.
Plus did not have cancelled in my paragraph.
But that is clearly what you were talking about.
 


In my line of work, all my employer can say is the dates I worked for them.
I suspect there are lot of industries that do things differently than in your field. Do you regularly cut open your customers' chest cavities and put your hands inside? Is the ability to repair a helicopter essential to your job? Would you get fired if you didn't speak conversational Egyptian Arabic?

I'm not sure why people are so offended that things in the creative field work differently.

Whether or not that's how things work in your field is completely irrelevant.
 


Late to the party – last page I had read before this was Page 8 – I just submitted a support ticket to D&D Beyond as follows, attaching an image of the former Spelljammer credits (also attached here).

Hi, I've noticed that on D&D Beyond, several team members who contributed to books such as Spelljammer are no longer credited in the bylines on the digital books. I have uploaded a screenshot of a previous version of the url shown above, and it shows the original bylines including the Senior Producer for D&D Beyond and the Digital Team Members, and they no longer show up on the credits as seen in the url above.

This is incredibly harmful to any worker trying to be hired whose resumes would be checked against the credits of the content they worked on, so I would assume this must somehow be an oversight and not direct malicious intent against these creators.

Beyond Spelljammer, I've noticed the same noticed the same issue on several other products: DragonLance: Shadow of the Dragon Queen; Journeys Through the Radiant Citadel; Mordenkainen Presents: Monsters of the Multiverse; and Starter Set: Dragons of Stormwreck Isle.

Please resolve these errors as your products are only as great as the blood, sweat, and tears put into them by the people who work for you. I love D&D and have preordered the new 2024 Core Rules, but this really really really upsets me, and makes me reconsider whether I would want to use D&D Beyond or the Project Sigil VTT in the future.

Please help.

Thank you,
Marandahir
 

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It is the other side of gripe. To Sum up
What is the amount work you have to do to get credit in the end credits (or similar credit thingy)?
If you do get credit? What are your recourses if the company removes from the credit over non work related or heck even work related items?

Plus did not have cancelled in my paragraph.
Therein lies the heart of the issue for me. The reason they were being credited is because of the work they did on the written books. So, to answer you question, I'd say at the very least, they needed to have contributed to the written books.
 

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