D&D (2024) Ranger: is Horde Breaker a bit too good for level 3?

[mellored]

Then I invite you to read the text for Sneak Attack on p.129. There is no mention of Reaction. It's just 'once per turn'.

"Once per turn" is different from "once on your turn".

Taking a Reaction does not make it your turn.

 

[mellored]

I agree that Horde breaker is only on your turn and doesn’t work with reactions so one extra attack per turn only.

To be slightly fair.

If you somehow managed to take a reaction attack on your turn, perhaps an enemy uses a reaction to move when you got close, you could use it.

Not something that will come up very often, if ever.

 

[Horwath]

To be slightly fair.

If you somehow managed to take a reaction attack on your turn, perhaps an enemy uses a reaction to move when you got close, you could use it.

Not something that will come up very often, if ever.

it's only once on your turn no luck there either.

 

[Quartz]

Taking a Reaction does not make it your turn.

I beg to differ. When you take a reaction it becomes your turn to act. Or re-act.

 

[Umbran]

Really? You get an extra turn when it's your Reaction. It's not once per round.

I think you may be a little confused about Reactions.

You may have some number of things you can spend your Reaction on - opportunity attacks, certain spells or abilities that specifically state they take a reaction.

When the criteria for a reaction is met, you can do that one thing. You don't get a whole new turn, you just get to do that one thing. And taking that Reaction doesn't make it your turn again.

So, if there are two critters standing next to each other, on your turn you can use your normal attack on one of them, and the attack from Hordebreaker on another. If on their turn, one of the pair then tries to move away, you can use your reaction to take an attack of opportunity. But, since it is on their turn, Hordebreaker doesn't trigger again.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

I beg to differ. When you take a reaction it becomes your turn to act. Or re-act.

Sorry. You are wrong. Try reading the rules about turns again.

There is a reason to limit it to YOUR turn as you noticed yourself.

 

[Will Brandiman]

I beg to differ. When you take a reaction it becomes your turn to act. Or re-act.

As has been pointed out by many people, that is simply not true. You do not get another turn when you take a reaction. You simply take a reaction.

 

[billd91]

I beg to differ. When you take a reaction it becomes your turn to act. Or re-act.

That's a misinterpretation. Take a look at the first pages on Combat starting on page 23. It's pretty clear when your turn is and what you can do on it, how the turn order is set by initiative, and so on.
If it's not on your turn as set by the initiative, it's not your turn. Taking a reaction on another creature's turn doesn't make it your turn.

 

[mellored]

I beg to differ. When you take a reaction it becomes your turn to act. Or re-act.

Per the rules...

"A Reaction is an instant response to a trigger of some kind, which can occur on your turn or on someone else’s.
...
If the reaction interrupts another creature’s turn, that creature can continue its turn right after the Reaction"

 

[mellored]

it's only once on your turn no luck there either.

But if you use your action to cast a spell, and an enemy uses their reaction to run on your turn

You could hit with a reaction on your turn, and then horde breaker.

That's a lot of If's. But technically possible.