D&D General Greyhawk Humanocentricism?

[Zeromaru X]

But I have no idea where the idea that you've received actually comes from.

Honestly, I thought it was part of the idiosyncrasy of the setting, because it's really prevalent in most old school DMs.

 

[pemerton]

You'll note, for example, that there's still a fair amount of pushback against orcish and half-orcish characters, but not against half-elves--the former were monsters in Tolkien's work, while the latter were on the side of heroes (albeit few in number, IIRC only Elrond and his three children, primarily Arwen since we never see her brothers in the trilogy proper).

Actually, Elladan and Elrohir join Aragorn at the Ford of Isen, with the other rangers who travel south and join him (i) for the journey via the Paths of the Dead, and then (ii) for the final assault on Mordor. Elrohir speaks in the Last Debate.

 

[pemerton]

Honestly, I thought it was part of the idiosyncrasy of the setting, because it's really prevalent in most old school DMs.

I would suggesting filing it in the same category of nonsense as many of the other over-generalising claims from those "old school DMs" about the way things were done back in the day.

 

[EzekielRaiden]

Actually, Elladan and Elrohir join Aragorn at the Ford of Isen, with the other rangers who travel south and join him (i) for the journey via the Paths of the Dead, and then (ii) for the final assault on Mordor. Elrohir speaks in the Last Debate.

Then I stand corrected! I genuinely don't remember their appearance at all. Sounds like perhaps I should re-read The Return of the King at some point.

 

[pemerton]

Then I stand corrected! I genuinely don't remember their appearance at all. Sounds like perhaps I should re-read The Return of the King at some point.

I'm not going to say that their footprints are found on every page. (In fact the index will tell you which pages are trod by them.)

But they are there. I remembered them travelling with the Rangers of the North; it was only the index that took me to Elrohir speaking at the Last Debate.

 

[Remathilis]

Eberron is a great setting. And as I said I love robots and other created species, and I enjoy mixing genres too.

I just don't like warforged as "the" created race in D&D.

I have to echo this. Warforged have a very unique niche in Eberron, and reducing them to a generic robot species weakens them. I'd rather see a species like auto gnome or even a generic android before making warforged generic golemfolk.

 

[Remathilis]

Sure, but one can easily ignore the Savage Coast and Hollow World areas of Mystara.

Krynn is a really interesting place if you ignore Ansalon and focus on Taladas.

 

[FrozenNorth]

More modern example.

MCU vs DC.
WoT vs RoP
Taylor Swift vs Ed Sheridan.

Whatever one you like better (or none) do you want them to be the same?

I’m not sure it does. I like Ed Sheeran. I like his songs. I would think it was extremely cool if, in the middle of a concert, he sang a Taylor Swift cover.

This has intellectual property considerations, but it would definitely be awesome. Likewise, a warforged in Ravenloft would be pretty cool and there is no reason that it would go against the gothic horror vibe per se.

Note that even that example goes a bit beyond what was being argued: that the example setting in the DMG include all races featured in the PHB.

 

[AnotherGuy]

Krynn is a really interesting place if you ignore Ansalon and focus on Taladas.

It is an interesting issue - does the theme, the race or both make something more or less serious?
i.e. does any story become less serious because the existence of tortles?

 

[Parmandur]

Honestly, I thought it was part of the idiosyncrasy of the setting, because it's really prevalent in most old school DMs.

Nope, the other way around entirely.