It's kind of funny just how serious the original TMNT comics were given that that Eastman and Laird were poking fun at the prevelance of ninjas in comics at the time. I've grown comfortable with the idea that "a little silly" describes an awful lot of the fiction I enjoy. It certainly applies to D&D.
replying to these three at once cause they feel like they're all more or less getting at the same thing, and not to be so dismissive but all that is pretty much setting lore nonsense IMO, you haven't given any actual reasoning beyond seemingly repeating 'well they're part of ebberon's lore so they should stay that way', adhering so strictly to the specifics of their creation is needlessly restrictive in a way that doesn't get applied to the majority of the other species, you don't get people saying 'well you can't have dragonborn in X setting because there aren't dragons and dragonborn were modified from dragon eggs', they just say 'here's this species of cool dragon people, they exist here', golems are standard fare in most settings and wizards are inventing new experiments and creations all the time, and warforged are pretty much just a more advanced golem when you get down to it, 'once upon a time there was a wizard who thought it'd be pretty neat if he had a sentient golem, so he figured out how to make the first warforged and eventually spread the technique far and wide, at one point it was discovered the warforged have their own souls and were made their own people' boom, done, how warforged exist in any setting whatsoever without magitech or artificers or the war or anything else.
Heh, I’m in hard agreement.
I think you are completely misreading DrunkonDuty, Greyhawk specifically had a well known big deal ancient "cataclysmic war between 2 or more magical super powers".
I agree, it is very easy to find possible origins.
And how does that war actually effect warforged’s nature as sentient constructs? From how I’m seeing things it doesn’t, lore is malleable, what’s established in one setting need not be true in the next.I think you are completely misreading DrunkonDuty, Greyhawk specifically had a well known big deal ancient "cataclysmic war between 2 or more magical super powers".
I feel like someone asked me what my favorite color was, I answered blue because it's a calming, relaxing color, only to have that person tell me my opinion was nonsense because it falls into some color theory nonsense. We're talking about preferences here not objective facts. Why don't I want warforged in my Greyhawk game? Because they fit well into Eberron and that's where I'd like them to stay. Could someone fit them into a Greyhawk campaign? Sure, no problem, I thought of two just off the top of my head that would work. It doesn't change my preference though.
Im not saying your preferences are nonsense*, my point is the same as it has always been in this topic just pointing out that there is a surprisingly intense desire amongst the fandom to keep warforged restricted to ebberon when that desire isn’t present for many other similar ‘setting exclusive’ species, and despite them fitting the artificial being niche which is a popular archetype and which DNDs other options for that are quite limited and not all that spectacular.
If that's not what you mean to say then you might not want to dismiss someone's preference by referring to it as "setting lore nonsense." You understand why someone might be under the impression that you're saying their opinion is nonsense, right?
