D&D General Greyhawk Humanocentricism?

I have no problem with the idea of allowing a Warforged PC in Greyhawk, because honestly I can think of tons of possible origins for an individual. But unlike the "new" PHB Species, I don't feel compelled to put a large population of Warforged in the Setting. Less because I think it is a problem for Greyhawk, and more out of respect for how distinct a story Eberron has there, and not wanting to take away from that.

Same. Thought, for me that they aren't in the PHB is more relevant, because people expect that anything in the PHB can be available, while stuff from other sources needs the approval of the DM. Thus, a species not in the PHB doesn't necessarily needs a place to call home. The DMs needs to work with the players to give it one.
 

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I would still prefer a tortle PC over a tinker gnome or kender PC nine times out of ten.
I haven't read anything really about tortles from my Savage Coast pdfs, but @pemerton's description of similar like creatures from Torchbearer seem interesting, even if falling into the antagonistic camp.
My preference though amongst the three you provided would likely be a tinker gnome because of my lack of knowledge on tortles but predominantly my reading of the DL prelude Light and Darkness (Sturm and Kitiara) so many years ago. I enjoyed the reading of it back then.
 


It's mostly the terrible 'magic robot' memes people used to attack Eberron back in the day that ignored the fact that there's an entire creature type that is 'magic robot' that's been in the game since the beggining.

Not as a playable race.

Big difference.

Everyone conjuring up things like that or origins miss the point.

Greyhawk maybe Darksun no would be my take. You don't even need the Eberron creation story. Wizard did it, leftover from Blackmoor etc.

For me I would probably consider it. Pkayer I would just go with whatever DM says if I was asking to play one on GH.

Compromise DM says yes but only 1 exotic race allowed. If they're aiming for humanocentric game.
Or they're wanting to have PCs with stronger ties to the area.

So something like this.

Spotlight races.

AD&D plus Tiefling, Drow, Gith, Genasi, Lizardfolk
1 Exotic race allowed in the party.
 
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I really just rather let people play what they want. It's not like a turtle existing is going to change literally anything else in the game, especially if the DM is just not going to be using any of the interesting species on the NPC side of things.

The game is full or random freaks of nature--it's pretty much it's thing.
 

I really just rather let people play what they want. It's not like a turtle existing is going to change literally anything else in the game, especially if the DM is just not going to be using any of the interesting species on the NPC side of things.

The game is full or random freaks of nature--it's pretty much it's thing.

It's a DM thing and personally I find a curated setting more appealing vs pick whatever out of Mordenkainens.
Could be Grewhawk could be Humblewood. Some servings have a well defined theme.
 

It's a DM thing and personally I find a curated setting more appealing vs pick whatever out of Mordenkainens.
Could be Grewhawk could be Humblewood. Some servings have a well defined theme.

Oddly enough, those "curated settings" are usually "just pick from among the Tolkien 4. If you dare to pick anything else, I'm going to bully you for the rest of the game, until either your character is dead or you leave the game."
 



Oddly enough, those "curated settings" are usually "just pick from among the Tolkien 4. If you dare to pick anything else, I'm going to bully you for the rest of the game, until either your character is dead or you leave the game."

Very big generalization. For Greyhawk ot would be the AD&D ones plus any DM adds.

If I went down that path it would be AD&D plus Drow, Gith, Tieflings, Genasi, Lizardfolk.

Depends on the setting as well. If it's sonething specific or DMs spent money on it fair enough. You dont have to play after all if you don't like it.

I'm not sure what's in humblewood but it looks cute and I'm guessing it's anthropomorphic animals. Not sure if you can play an Elf for example.
 

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