D&D General Playstyle vs Mechanics


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The Internet really helps with that issue IMO.
Sure.

But it's like being a rock music fan. 25, 30 years ago it was everywhere. But you can't turn on a Top 40 station now and expect to hear it.

Likewise, if you're searching for a group of detailed setting enjoyers, be prepared to do some filtering.
 

Sure.

But it's like being a rock music fan. 25, 30 years ago it was everywhere. But you can't turn on a Top 40 station now and expect to hear it.

Likewise, if you're searching for a group of detailed setting enjoyers, be prepared to do some filtering.
Rock music is pretty easy to find, but sure.
 

I have no problem with people enjoying that style of play. I mean, I played it in plenty, it was the dominant paradigm for probably my first 15 years of roleplaying.

I just think it's important to reiterate that it's a 20th century atavism in a modern D&D context, and only has a tangential connection to how most modern groups play, and how most modern games (outside of some OSR circles) are designed.

So an unprovable and in my opinion improbable appeal to authority for a style of play not supported by the rules that were just published?

I have no problem with you running the game the way you want. But the 2024 PHB and DMG do not agree with what you are saying aside from a sentence or two on alternatives ways to play in the DMG.

If I'm completely missing your point on why you're just saying it's only an old fogey problem I apologize. Until then? It's just telling people they're playing wrong because they don't play like you do.
 

Sure.

But it's like being a rock music fan. 25, 30 years ago it was everywhere. But you can't turn on a Top 40 station now and expect to hear it.

Likewise, if you're searching for a group of detailed setting enjoyers, be prepared to do some filtering.
I don't think it is as rare as you think, the OSR movement is not tiny, but if you live in a small town and don't like online play it could be an issue.
 

So an unprovable and in my opinion improbable appeal to authority for a style of play not supported by the rules that were just published?

I have no problem with you running the game the way you want. But the 2024 PHB and DMG do not agree with what you are saying aside from a sentence or two on alternatives ways to play in the DMG.

If I'm completely missing your point on why you're just saying it's only an old fogey problem I apologize. Until then? It's just telling people they're playing wrong because they don't play like you do.
I never once in my post said anything about "how I want" to play.

And whose authority was I even appealing to?

And who did I tell they were playing wrong?

I'm just....puzzled.
 


How rare do you think I think it is?
Based on your example, I perceive you underestimated the OSR style of play's appeal. If there was a TOP 40, there would be some OSR hits playing on the radio. It wouldn't be the majority by any means but they'd have some TOP 40 slots. The amount of product available is astounding. It's the hey dey of OSR outside of it's origins.
 


Based on your example, I perceive you underestimated the OSR style of play's appeal. If there was a TOP 40, there would be some OSR hits playing on the radio. It wouldn't be the majority by any means but they'd have some TOP 40 slots. The amount of product available is astounding. It's the hey dey of OSR outside of it's origins.
Sure, but I wasn't speaking specifically about OSR; I was speaking to the playstyle of heavy DM authorial voice over the pre-prepped setting, and the game being focused on exploration of that setting.

Heavy setting prep is common in the OSR, but certainly not a requirement.
 

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